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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Double Mastectomy at 15, 16 Year-Old Detransitioner Now Seeks Reversal

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WootMoggie · 11/07/2020 09:12

This is heartbreaking. How can anyone think this is OK? How can anyone argue that teenagers "know what they are doing"?

Why isn't everyone unanimous that this is not something that we should be encouraging?

And why are organisations such as Tescos giving Mermaids an £80,000 grant; a charity that tells parents that they should get hormone blockers off the internet or risk their child committing suicide?

I also saw the video from a conference in the USA where it was stated that the youngest double-mastectomy they knew of was eight years old.

thevelvetchronicle.com/double-mastectomy-at-15-detrans-16-year-old-now-seeks-reversal/

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HandsOffMyRights · 11/07/2020 09:41

Saw this on Twitter. It is heartbreaking.

One reply twisted this and said this was a "fringe case." Sadly, we know it's not and even one case is too many.

Dhalmeup · 11/07/2020 09:44

How was that EVER allowed to happen?! Whoever performed that procedure should be struck off.

That poor girl...

SerenityNowwwww · 11/07/2020 10:00

I saw this before. How was the initial surgery paid for and why?

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 11/07/2020 10:06

Eight?! Fucking WHAT ?

Datun · 11/07/2020 10:08

Eight?

PrincessForADay · 11/07/2020 15:34

Heartbreaking

MingeofDeath · 11/07/2020 15:52

I didn't read it as an 8 year old having a mastectomy (not possible surely?) but having been put on blockers.

Motorcyclemptiness · 11/07/2020 15:59

Terribly sad poor, poor girl. thanks op for the article in the VC, I have to say that 'gay conversion therapy' is spot on, IMHO

PotholeParadise · 11/07/2020 16:11

I am definitely donating to the crowdfunder.

Defensive medicine has meant adult childfree women have to wait years to have sterilisation surgery performed, in case they change their minds and sue a doctor for giving the procedure the go-ahead.

Why weren't this child's medical team petrified of being sued?

monkeyonthetable · 11/07/2020 16:21

Why is there not a prerequisite that people who believe they are trans are given supportive therapy until they reach a point where they can honestly say: I like myself as a person. I accept myself as a human being. But I believe I am in the wrong body.' No one who hates themself and is suffering from depression should be shoved through a system so carelessly with such shocking, unnecessary, violent surgery. It's akin to FGM. 'Unhappy girl? Let's carve up your body. Bound to make you feel better!' Said footbinders and FGMutilators and Trans-pushers everywhere.
Teach unhappy teens they have the right to be who they are, dress as they please, pursue whatever legal activities appeal to them. Teach them to be happy and confident in themselves as people first. If that has been done really conscientiously, lovingly and completely, I wonder how many transitioners would find they are happy in their own skin.

I know TERFS are hated by the trans community, but the very least feminists can do is vehemently encourage young girls to understand that they don't have to conform to pink Barbie pap to be female. If it saves girls from going through the appalling damage that this girl endured just because she was unhappy, it will be a valuable campaign.

I look back and shudder how easily any girl could fall into the trap. I hated growing breasts in early puberty. I loathed having periods every single month of my entire life, hated the agonising pain and the mood swings. I hated 'myself' and had depression. I used to passionately long to be a boy throughout childhood. In my late teens I had crushes on women. Over the long course of my life, I've learned that I'm straight not even bi, and am definitely, 100% glad to be a woman. My longing to be a man was entirely based on a 1970s upbringing which was heavily sexist - I saw that boys and men were respected, heard, given opportunities over more deserving girls and women but couldn't articulate it. I imagine the constant, mind numbing reality TV selfie culture of pouting and booty is enough to make thousands of young women wonder if that's what they have to want and be to qualify as female. Is any of this questioned and addressed?

Collidascope · 11/07/2020 16:36

Poor, poor kid. It's hideous how many girls and women are being thrown under the wheels of the TRA bus - for believing in it or for resisting it. I'm so disillusioned with the world right now. It just feels like there's no end in sight, and all the while more and more people are being damaged by this, and the bastards doing the damage are looking self-righteously on, believing that this is fucking progress.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 11/07/2020 16:38

We have always said that it will be these poor children once they reach adulthood and finally understand the catastrophic damage that has been done to their bodies, their fertility and their future sex lives who will put an end to this. But their lives are being sacrificed by the politicians and adults who allow frankly creepy lobby groups into schools to gaslight children into believing that they have been born in the wrong body and that untested drugs and surgery will cure all.
I so hope that details are being kept of all these groups and adults currently coercing children into these toxic beliefs - I want to see them held to account for the damage they are doing.

WootMoggie · 11/07/2020 16:43

MingeofDeath do you have link? I'd be interested to see if it's the one I'm thinking of.

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NearlyGranny · 11/07/2020 16:55

"I never knew that I could be a girl and be myself without being judged."

Saddest words I've read in a long time. We need to get to the sources of the judgemental, hateful, gender-stereoyped, body-shaming messages our girls - and boys - are absorbing and silence them.

Then we need to surround our kids with messages of love, encouragement, acceptance and permission to find and be themselves and just thrive as people.

Why is that proving so difficult in C21st democracies? Could it be that there's less or no profit to be made from people who are creative, content and engaged in life rather than discontented, striving and miserably measuring themselves against artificial ideals?

MingeofDeath · 11/07/2020 17:04

@ Woot

I read the link that the OP posted.

"Labeling toddlers as young as 1, medicalizing children as young as 8, and performing double mastectomies (“top surgery”) on kids as young as 12,"
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MingeofDeath · 11/07/2020 17:06

Sorry, article said 8 year old being medicalised, I may have incorrectly interpreted as them being put on blockers. Either way it's wrong.

Datun · 11/07/2020 17:10

Eight years old for blockers would make sense. It's at tanner stage two of puberty, which is once they've started, but only just.

Datun · 11/07/2020 17:10

My understanding is they have to have started producing the hormones, in order for blockers to take effect.

WootMoggie · 11/07/2020 17:12

Ah I see. No, I was referring to a small pro-trans conference of medical professionals in the states recorded from a fixed camera positioned on the panel.

Wish I'd bookmarked it now - but I ended up with so many unmanageable links that I don't bother anymore.

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ThinEndoftheWedge · 12/07/2020 15:56

This poor girl is a clear example of why GC voices are sooo damned important.

I do wish her well.

OldCrone · 12/07/2020 20:39

This woman is a doctor in the US.

"Dr. Johanna Olson-Kennedy explains why mastectomies for healthy teen girls is no big deal"

She says that it's OK for teenage girls to have mastectomies because "if they want breasts at a later point in their life, they can go and get them".

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