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Irreversible Damage: The transgender craze seducing our daughters - new book

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stumbledin · 11/07/2020 00:50

Have only skim read a review, and not sure it is saying anything that those on FWR aren't familiar with. Also US based.

But thought I would post as a point of interest thepostmillennial.com/why-are-teenage-girls-afraid-to-be-women-a-new-book-explains-their-flight-from-biological-reality

Apparently Amazon have refused to stock it! twitter.com/abigailshrier?lang=en

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VirginiaComet · 21/08/2020 22:27

@VirginiaComet

That doesn't sound right?

It's published by Regenery which is owned by Salem Media Group /Simon and Schuester and I can't find any connection to Waterstones. (I used to work for Waterstones and although it's been a few years I have never been aware of them owning a publishing house...)

Oops this was meant to reply to LeftHandDown I had a look to see who the publisher of Shrier's book was, only to discover that Waterstones bought the publishing company a year or so ago!

I'm genuinely curious Smile

nepeta · 21/08/2020 22:50

I read it a few weeks ago. The only new aspect for me in it had to do with the possibility that a very large percentage of the young girls who seek transition in fact have never kissed anyone, never had a date, are virgins and so on, yet many describe their desire to transition from at least partly a sexual angle.

I have seen the latter quite a bit on various online sites. Shier argues that this is because the teens now live online rather than in the real world so they have replaced socialising and dating with online activities. Also, girls who lack friends and social standing are drawn toward transitioning because it opens up a subculture which supports and celebrates them and turns them from outcasts into central players in that subculture.

The author's conservative views appear toward the back of the book , in my opinion.

The flavor of the book is very much that it is being a woman or a Lesbian which is now made so unattractive that girls don't want to go there when it looks like they can simply turn a switch and become boys, but in the last chapter(s) the author goes back to essentially innate thinking about sex roles and how certain occupations are more suited for women while STEM is for men but the former should be equally valued (are not in pay, of course) and so on.

This really goes against the main themes in the book which are very much about the re-emergence of women's roles as largely sexual and the clear rebirth of retrogressive thinking about what a man and a woman might be. Short hair equals men and so on.

Purpleice · 22/08/2020 00:36

As a total side note Dr Lisa Marchiano is on a weekly podcast as one of three analysts called ‘This Jungian Life’ it’s a really good listen.

ValancyRedfern · 22/08/2020 07:45

Mine is due to arrive on Tuesday! I am trying to be Amazon-free but Waterstones aren't stocking it at all so I ended up getting it on Amazon.

Winesalot · 22/08/2020 09:25

I read this thread this morning about just how tightly the young transgender community narrow their field of scope. Just how even reading something that is real and factual and causes them to question their beliefs is impossible for them to cope with. Let alone if one of their community expresses that it is a point worthy of consideration.

The fear of cancellation by their community is one of the main points that Irreversible Damage brought home to me. And feeling like this is such a mess if mental health practitioner’s hands are tied by the conversion therapy legislation.

twitter.com/hjoycegender/status/1296853754202009601?s=21

queenofknives · 22/08/2020 10:01

@Purpleice

As a total side note Dr Lisa Marchiano is on a weekly podcast as one of three analysts called ‘This Jungian Life’ it’s a really good listen.
Oh I love that podcast! Never made the connection with the Lisa Marchiano talking about transition. Thanks for the note!
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