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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Disturbing and illuminating blog post

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Prawnofthepatriarchy · 05/07/2020 10:09

I haven't see another thread on this GenderHeretics piece written by an American HCP, social worker and human rights activist who's worked with sex offenders.

In it she details her professional and personal experience, and her gradual disillusion with libfem beliefs. It's long (12,000 words) but my God she covers some ground.

"...I was sent to work as a therapist at an institution for involuntarily committed sex offenders. These are the guys whose crimes are so bad that even after they’ve served their prison sentences, they are deemed too dangerous to release to the public, so they are sent to our institution indefinitely, or until a judge deems them rehabilitated and orders them released...

Listening to them in their group and individual sessions was where I started to break from my libfem roots... One day I asked, naively, “What about female sex offenders, do we treat them?”

My boss chuckled.

“It’s not that they don’t exist, but they’re so rare. And they’d rarely if ever need this type of treatment. It’s usually an entirely different approach for an entirely different cause…” and he schooled me on why I was a shit feminist, without saying as much. I had a lot to learn away from the “but not all men,” and the “women do it too” circles that were pervasive even in the left. Reality wasn’t what some of my allies were guilt tripping me into believing.

So then I asked, “What about trans women?” At this point, still fully believing the “some people are born in the wrong body” line.

Boss paused again. “We have trans women, and we have males with AGP. We keep them in another wing.” Cool. Makes sense.

“Wait, what is AGP?”

That lesson I received that day was… another eye opener. AGP (autogynephilia) was a new but shocking concept. I knew of cross dressers, but this was a whole other level from what I’d imagined... These males were on female hormones, wore female attire, and put on makeup. But they were still male and they were still capable of being violent rapists as they had many times in their past. To think of putting them in female prisons or shelters or homes was so outrageous to me that I couldn’t imagine anyone would ever even suggest something so absurd. Little did I know, such absurd things would not only be requested, but demanded within a couple of years by the people marching beside me for social justice in other areas.

She talks about porn, about trans widows and trans kids. There are so many disturbing elements to this article, but I'll stop quoting now.

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Z0rr0 · 05/07/2020 10:12

I referenced it in the First Do No Harm thread but didn't link to it or discuss it directly. It is a very long read but great to hear from someone who knows the SJW world and the AGP world very well.

Angryresister · 05/07/2020 12:22

Yes an important read which should not have been taken down. Why have women’s accounts been dismissed so easily...oh wait...

Whatsnewpussyhat · 05/07/2020 13:20

Equally amazing and depressing.

bishopgiggles · 05/07/2020 16:30

An important read, especially for anyone hoping for the "answer" that explains why we do need to agree that twaw (spoiler: they've searched and searched and there isn't one)

Mycatismadeofstringcheese · 05/07/2020 16:35

I saw this posted on Twitter. I love her commentary on what she has done when she is told to “go and educate herself”.

It’s shocking that this has been removed from two sites already that purport to uphold free speech.

It’s long and definitely worth the read.

Thelnebriati · 05/07/2020 16:37

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20200702034115/genderheretics.org/index.php/2020/07/01/i-hit-peaktrans-by-treating-transgender-sex-offenders/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20200702034115/genderheretics.org/index.php/2020/07/01/i-hit-peaktrans-by-treating-transgender-sex-offenders/

EarlofEggMcMuffin · 05/07/2020 17:28

A long and very worthwhile read.
Summarises much of what I've learned here.

gardenbird48 · 05/07/2020 19:25

Thank you @Prawnofthepatriarchy - I’d seen this article mentioned a couple of times - now I’ve read it and omg how powerful - I’d say it’s a must read. I am trying to get my thoughts about this whole situation down on paper (in some form of systems analysis diagram - my background is in developing manufacturing IT systems - who’d have thunk it - little me, a woman) - I’ve got an opportunity to explain this properly to my husband who understands that I am very concerned but doesn’t quite get why. With all the cognitive dissonance going on sometimes I lose my trail but this article nails so many of the strands I’ve seen so far - I will be digesting this further and hoping to convey the potential enormity of the situation.

Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 05/07/2020 19:39

I read it today after seeing a link on Parler. It's good to know that the USA has strong, brave women who are working against the dismantling of women's legal rights and pharmacological and surgical conversion therapy for lesbian and gay youth.

QuarantineDream · 05/07/2020 20:09

wowowow what an incredibly well-written (and horrifying) piece of writing. Thank you for sharing.

Iamhangingin · 05/07/2020 20:27

Long but very worthwhile read. I can't believe it was taken down. There is hardly anything derogatory in there, I really dispare. Hardcore porn on the internet, trolls, rape threats.... all okay. Reasoned argument for protecting womens spaces not?

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