The trans ideology of less than 1% of the UK population has bullied the other 99% - RT!

[stumbledin]

Everywhere, people in positions of power have been prepared to coalesce behind the demands of transgender activists. So lacking are they in self-belief, so panicked about their capacity to lead, they look to the transgender community as an apparently victimized group to provide them with a source of moral authority. Few seem to care if this puts women and children at risk.

www.rt.com/op-ed/493513-transgenderism-ideology-bullying-society/

Just keep in mind there's probably plenty of Russian sponsored TRA social media accounts saying the exact opposite.

If you follow the Internet-media strategy of Russia, the one common feature you'll see is the stirring up of division and conflict in the West:

www.wired.com/story/russia-indictment-twitter-facebook-play-both-sides/

Whatever Russia's or RT's motivations for publishing it - I think those are irrelevant here - this is an article by a British author, Joanna Williams, who was also the author of the recent report on transgender issues by the centre-right Civitas thinktank.

Is it possible alot if these tra twittee accounts are just bots?? Obviously some tra's are real people but i am getting more and more suspicious that sone of these more extreme accounts aren't real people. Could be russia stiring the pot, causing conflict in West??
Or is that conspiracy nonsense? I guess that is the point, no one really knows.

as i know RT is skeptical about gender theory.
actually no western countries are like that.

Could be russia stiring the pot, causing conflict in West??

i feel skeptical.
if that's true, there's no Explanation why western liberal parties(ex us, uk canada, au, nordic countries) media, lgbt+ org, tech giants, companies, schools are on the board of gender theories.

main players. may be all those are russian bot?

blame russia is comfortable, but i don't think so.

This agenda is the perfect vehicle for agitators from several camps to remove women's rights. They may not all have the same motive.

The FBI are investigating right wing groups based in both the USA and Russia, and one of their tactics is to promote sexual violence and violence against women.
www.bbc.com/news/world-51236915

www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/08/anti-feminism-gateway-far-right/595642/

www.newstatesman.com/world/europe/2019/09/why-far-right-obsessed-gender-ideology

Russia isn't causing the argument over the gender identity ideology. Russia has a track record of looking for contentious issues in the West and pitching in on one or both sides to generate more heat to creat more discord. This strategy doesn't have to involve Russia being aligned with any ideological position, it can still push hard for strong gender adherence in those places directly under Russia's control.

@nauticant

Russia isn't causing the argument over the gender identity ideology. Russia has a track record of looking for contentious issues in the West and pitching in on one or both sides to generate more heat to creat more discord. This strategy doesn't have to involve Russia being aligned with any ideological position, it can still push hard for strong gender adherence in those places directly under Russia's control.

Yes i think that makes sense. It is just a bandwagon they can leap on to create mischief rather than caring about the cause itself.

Yes. But anyway sorry for having derailed your thread stumbledin, it wasn't my intention, I wasn't taking issue with the article itself.

[quote Thelnebriati]This agenda is the perfect vehicle for agitators from several camps to remove women's rights. They may not all have the same motive.

The FBI are investigating right wing groups based in both the USA and Russia, and one of their tactics is to promote sexual violence and violence against women.
www.bbc.com/news/world-51236915

www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/08/anti-feminism-gateway-far-right/595642/

www.newstatesman.com/world/europe/2019/09/why-far-right-obsessed-gender-ideology[/quote]
That is so depressing. Hard to believe people think like that.
But i can completely see how the trans agenda is perfect for so many causes. Intersectionality too.

Soviet agents infiltrated the British gay scene many decades ago.

This was especiially fruitful for them back in the days when homosexuality was illegal and gay men could be blackmailed with ease and were much more easily honey trapped.

This video, Toffs, Queers and Traitors, might be interesting to readers

My understanding is that the Russian state works by infiltrating / bankrolling / astroturfing various activist groups and cults.

Their strategy is to infiltrate both extremes of opposing movements and then light the blue touch paper and stand well back and enjoy watching the fireworks as different "tribes" tear each other to pieces.

One thing that it apparent to me is that some elements of the Russian media are portraying the UK as a nation of child abusers who care more about pets and animals than they do about children.

An example is this fascinating interview with Camila Batmanghelidjh on the Voice of Russia radio station which contains some unusual claims

The current situation with Mermaids plays completely into this narrative of the Uk as a nation of child abusers as do the various conspiracy theories about VIP satanic paedophile rings.

It is worth noticing that when Carl Beech, the paedopile who falsely accused various innocent politicians, the head of MI5 and 6 and an elderly war hero of raping, torturing and murdering children, went on the run prior to being arrested he was in a remote and wild part of Sweden apparently heading towards Russia.

I don't have much time right now but there is so much more to add to this.

Readers may wish to research the astroturfing of the BLM movement in 2018 and 19 by Russian trolls.

Readers should also be aware that it is not just Russia, other actors are involved, Russia is however highly skilled at this kind of social engineering.

Readers may also find this performance in Moscow of the tantric sex promoting, ayahuasca quaffing, rock star Sting

Here's RT on JKR:

www.rt.com/op-ed/491576-jk-rowling-sexual-abuse-revelation/

Rowling told a big whopper in her controversial 3,600-word transgender essay when she wrote, “I'm mentioning these things now not in an attempt to garner sympathy.” Really? That’s total BS.

We all know it was done solely in a vain attempt to distract the irate keyboard warriors and hopefully give everybody a guilt trip. It’s the oldest trick in the book called the Dark Art of Spin, and it’s disingenuous of you to claim otherwise.

In the case of this article, this was an attempt to discredit #metoo.

I posted in a rush and my main reason for posting it was the irony of one moment we are all going its so terrible only right wing papers will publish gender critical articles, and then here is one in RT. (It is basically a precis of the Civitas paper which I am sure there is a thread on here.)

For those of us in the UK the problem is getting balanced reporting, and factual reporting into the mainstream. It is so disheartening that so many news and comment outlets wont give women a voice.

Not sure what it is like in the US where it must be even weirder finging that in some instances you and Trump could appear to be agreeing!

On a slightly different issue I find that if I want to know what is going on in Europe I have to tune in to RT or Al Jazeera because British media is just obsessed by the US and personality politics.

Just keep in mind there's probably plenty of Russian sponsored TRA social media accounts saying the exact opposite.

If you follow the Internet-media strategy of Russia, the one common feature you'll see is the stirring up of division and conflict in the West:

agree 100%

The wired link in your post is worth reading

It's a good article and I was glad to read it.

You're right about being pleased that gender critical arguments are getting aired in a wide variety of media outlets.

It's my weakness that when it comes to Russian media, the first thing that comes into my head is "what's the real agenda for publishing this?" You weren't to know how that aspect is catnip to some people (like me).

On a slightly different issue I find that if I want to know what is going on in Europe I have to tune in to RT or Al Jazeera because British media is just obsessed by the US and personality politics.

really?

RT and AJ both produce some good documentaries but some of the reporting is really bad.

You might like this

www.rferl.org

Personally I read many different news sites including ones I don't like. I like to know what's out there even if it's fake

It's my weakness that when it comes to Russian media, the first thing that comes into my head is "what's the real agenda for publishing this?" You weren't to know how that aspect is catnip to some people (like me).

It is good that you have a skeptical position.

The catnip can be for data harvesting, which is one reason I usually post archived links here

This thread is interesting.

It's putting me in mind of some of the things Adam Curtis was talking about in Bitter Lake in 2015.

The film itself is hours long but this a 6 minute clip touches on Putin's advisor Vladislav Surkov and his methods and ideas.

Surkov was the subject of a really interesting Radio 4 special last year:

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0003jhg/episodes/player

He is a fascinating figure.

Sorry again stumbledin but I simply cannot resist.

Oo I missed that nauticant, I shall check it out thanks for the link!

I am not sure why everyone is acting as though it is only RT who have an agenda.

Most of the right wing press who give a platform to gender critical women aren't doing it from anything other than wanting to thumb their noses at the woke crown because they assume they are all lefties.

Sometime ago there was a suggestion we should support the Times by buying it because of giving space to gender critical views. Well I bought the Sunday Times on a couple of occassions and quite honestly felt quite tainted by reading it (wanted my monies worth). Some of the commentators are vile. Though probably not as bad as actually buying the DM.

Lets face it, as another thread recently started here is illustrating, no one is publishing from a totally neutral point. Most publish what substantiates their view, whether its WPUK, GetTheLOut, The Guardian or RT ....

Can you imagine someone saying I've got the money I'm going to set up a feminist newspaper. It would never get off the ground because of the competing voices wanting to define feminism!

So definitely ask why is RT airing this that or the other, but also ask why is the BBC airing this that or the other, or more likely not airing us, the women we admire, the issues we thing are important.

And wondering whether my blood pressure will survive watching the soon to be aired documentary of Murdoch. From a position of malice, he has probably done more damage to the UK then anyone else. Not just the smash the unions stance, but his amoral attitude towards people's privacy and turning this country into a salacious consumer driven, value free country that falls for vacuous showmen like Boris and Farage.

I am not sure why everyone is acting as though it is only RT who have an agenda.

I don't think everyone is acting in that way.

People are also skeptical about the Graun, the BBC, the Independent, Metro and a range of other publications and online sources including Quillette and Spiked even if the latter 2 do publish some useful GC material.

So definitely ask why is RT airing this that or the other, but also ask why is the BBC airing this that or the other, or more likely not airing us, the women we admire, the issues we thing are important.

agreed

Won't read anything from RT, for obvious reasons.