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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Times on Damian Barr

39 replies

Lamahaha · 03/07/2020 08:18

I really hope this is a share token!

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/dad940b0-bcb1-11ea-82eb-1588bf47a52f?shareToken=5bf81c44388fe32a0652ade6648c914e&fbclid=IwAR2lICIV1NdloUXrX6l22i3NSsAL4tP3wKeyM4Q4xyneXM1BgWHZTTMBkBY

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EmpressLangClegSpartacus · 03/07/2020 08:21

Thanks Lamahaha. Good on Janice for calling him out!

SheldontheWonderSchlong · 03/07/2020 09:03

Thanks for the share. It's good to see gross hypocrisy called out.

AbsintheFriends · 03/07/2020 09:10

Thanks for the share token Lamahaha.

The comments are great. I hope those closely involved in the Booker are reading and taking notice. The brand has been very badly tarnished by this.

LouHotel · 03/07/2020 09:12

It's been retweeted by Megyn Kelly which I did not have on my 2020 bingo card.

aliasundercover · 03/07/2020 09:23

The Times standing up once again.

In contrast, The Guardian has not mentioned this story, even though they were delighted to have many stories about Barr hounding out the Baroness.
Instead, they've published a story about how some online Harry Potter sites are upset with JK Rowling.

BovaryX · 03/07/2020 09:25

Julie Bindel, an author and women’s rights campaigner, tweeted: “Hi Damian, what sort of person mocks a suicide attempt?”

Great article. Damian is a vocal advocate of cancel culture. When is he going to turn himself in to Purity Control? Hypocrite.

gardenbird48 · 03/07/2020 09:26

he "used the word "Tranny' flippantly, not maliciously" - I'm not sure that the use of the word tTranny when mocking someone's suicide was the worst aspect of his tweet.....

So he is now overcompensating for his vicious nastiness to 'trannys' by being extra vicious and nasty to women - nice chap.

gardenbird48 · 03/07/2020 09:26

definitely keeping my Times subscription now.

NearlyGranny · 03/07/2020 09:26

The comments are indeed great, aren't they? I'm not a Times reader since it went (figuratively) redtop, but that was a much more articulate and cogent set of comments than I'd expected. 🤔

The comment about Nicholson being a proxy target for JK Rowling since the latter is effectively unassailable rang very true. It's quite chilling to get that glimpse of just how deep and vicious the hatred of women can run in some people who otherwise look and function quite normally. Especially when the women are articulate, successful and in any way influential.

Gilead lurks unsuspected just under the surface in many a mind, it seems.

BovaryX · 03/07/2020 09:28

when mocking someone's suicide

It speaks volumes about him. Despicable.

nevertrustaherdofcows · 03/07/2020 09:33

How frustrating - there's a linked piece by JT on the 'anger train out of control' but I'd need to subscribe ...

OldeMagick · 03/07/2020 09:33

Judging by the comments so far, Damian doesn't appear to have many fans.

None of the usual suspects have turned up to defend him yet for some reason....

Melroses · 03/07/2020 09:36

That tweet was hideous; mocking the person attempting suicide and inferring that it was not their only 'failure'. It does not take much to stand back and consider that the lives of the rest of the world do not live up to some imaginary standard and to not post cruel, unfeeling comments on a public platform.

AbsintheFriends · 03/07/2020 09:44

Nevertrust there's a share token for Janice Turner's anger train article in this thread. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3950827-Janice-Turner-on-The-righteous-anger-train-is-out-of-control

Lamahaha · 03/07/2020 09:50

And at last I have mastered the intricacies of the Share Token!!! Grin

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Dances · 03/07/2020 10:04

Ha ha ha
mobile.twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1278775456477650944

DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 03/07/2020 10:06

The comments are indeed great, aren't they? I'm not a Times reader since it went (figuratively) redtop, but that was a much more articulate and cogent set of comments than I'd expected.

I’m not a natural Times reader either, but it’s one of the last titles standing that still makes enough money (through paper sales and online subscriptions, as well as ads) to hire and nurture actual journalists, rather than scrape around for clicks using inflammatory (but inaccurate) titles as bait.

Just as video killed the radio star, the internet is responsible for the near-total death of decent quality journalism. Society is far the poorer for it, sadly.

As an aside, I think the share token thing is pretty genius - it allows for a bigger audience than pure subscription, and current subscribers sharing to their own networks works as free advertising.

It’s a very clever midway between total paywall and completely open access (which is becoming increasingly worthless as the unseemly battle for clicks rages on) and much better than the Telegraph’s mixture of free and ‘premium’ content, (which I find frustrating because most of the things I click on are dead ends, so I just leave the site). At least with clicking on Times articles you always get the first few paragraphs!

Well done to the Times and to Janice Turner for having the fortitude to consistently engage in this debate (and to keep the comment function on, something that the Guardian is far too cowardly to do).

Also, more on-topic - Damian Barr is clearly a prick - he’s been thoroughly outed as using supposed trans-supporting as a cover for misogyny, if he hadn’t allowed his woman-hating to thoroughly cloud his judgement, he could’ve at least cleaned up his past commentary before it came back to bite him on the arse.

Railingsohno · 03/07/2020 10:09

I’m going to subscribe to the Times on the back of this. Good on them. What was their stance on JKR?

ChattyLion · 03/07/2020 10:15

Glad they covered this. It’s not just a silly twitter spat. Its had real world consequences because of Booker management being so lacking in critical thinking.

LetGoOfTheLittleDistractions · 03/07/2020 10:19

Has he had death and rape threats yet? No?

wellbehavedwomen · 03/07/2020 10:22

Damian Barr is clearly a prick - he’s been thoroughly outed as using supposed trans-supporting as a cover for misogyny, if he hadn’t allowed his woman-hating to thoroughly cloud his judgement, he could’ve at least cleaned up his past commentary before it came back to bite him on the arse.

Yep. He has no problem with Dave Willetts, either, who consistently voted against gay rights yet remains unchallenged. The only person in the Bookers he mounted a crusade against was a woman. His comments come as no surprise at all. Nor does the silence on them from most quarters - good for the Times for reporting on it.

EwwSprouts · 03/07/2020 10:40

The Guardian really ought to be covering this as follow up to the Booker debacle. Except they're too deep a woke bunker. Eugh.

TERFLurve · 06/07/2020 22:23

His latest book is getting some resting reviews on Amazon, but you have to filter under 1 star Grin

TERFLurve · 06/07/2020 22:30

'Interesting'

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 06/07/2020 22:35

That horrible tweet he made? I've never said anything that viciously unkind about a trans person in my life, or even thought it. Nor have most of the people he wants to cancel, I'd bet, including Rowling, who seems to be a deeply compassionate person.

The word for what he's doing is "projection". Alternately, "distraction" is another good one.