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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Turkey: world's first uterus recipient gives birth

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Lamahaha · 02/07/2020 13:07

www.aa.com.tr/en/health/turkey-worlds-first-uterus-recipient-gives-birth/1891233?fbclid=IwAR1vN0VdKB2fBRC3dIGJhRuHqRb5nvfK-Qqkq0DazlQpXkCnAnxt3EDsnP4

After the birth the uterus was removed so that she would not have to continue taking medication. However, the medication couldn't have been healthy for the baby, a boy.

This still doesn't mean than men can give birth. It's not just the uterus, it's the whole system.

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merrymouse · 07/07/2020 10:19

I really think GC women need to let go of this fixation about whether or not men (however they identify) can carry a pregnancy. It is highly likely that, within the next 10 years, it will happen. People who say it's impossible seriously underestimate the sophistication of transplant medicine. The hormones of pregnancy can be given artificially.

If this were true we would be about 18 months away from curing all miscarriage and all infertility, but that is not the case.

The minute that a TW carries a pregnancy, that will be thrown back in our faces as 'proof' that TWAW.

I'm not trying to win a war against TW. The ability of a TW to carry a pregnancy after womb transplant that would be prohibitively expensive for all but a tiny minority does not negate my need for sex based rights.

HeistSociety · 07/07/2020 10:24

My spouse is waiting for a life saving transplant. I don't know how I feel about resources being diverted to non life saving transplants.

I am happy the child was born healthy, and am glad the issues around surrogacy don't apply here.

I don't understand how the foetus is protected from the anti-rejection drugs, or what short or long term effects there might be on the child?

Aesopfable · 07/07/2020 11:28

I don't understand how the foetus is protected from the anti-rejection drugs, or what short or long term effects there might be on the child?

The issues around anti-rejection drugs would be the same for kidney transplants, etc.

It is also interesting to consider that one of the female body’s many ‘whole system’ responses to pregnancy is to reduce the immune system. A baby and placenta etc is ‘foreign’ to our bodies and might otherwise be rejected. It is noteworthy that the people who are suggesting a uterine transplant to males may be possibly are plastic surgeons not obstetricians. They see it merely as a matter of plumbing in the right bit and using anti-rejection drugs to keep it there. They ignore the fact that the uterus is only one tiny part of the system that is the whole female body.

HeistSociety · 07/07/2020 12:05

So might pregnancy with a transplanted uterus negate the need for anti rejection drugs?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/07/2020 12:16

If this were true we would be about 18 months away from curing all miscarriage and all infertility, but that is not the case.

This. People really have no idea how complicated it is.

OhHolyJesus · 07/07/2020 12:33

People really have no idea how complicated it is.

And I really hope we don't waste NHS money trying to find out. Along with miscarriage and infertility, women still die from pregnancy/birth. Let's spend some money trying to stop that from happening first!

Even men who receive blood transfusions where the blood came from a woman are at higher risk. Why anyone thinks this is even worth exploring is beyond me.

I blame god complex doctors who have no sense of ethical/moral limits and not a great understanding of nature.

Aesopfable · 07/07/2020 12:49

So might pregnancy with a transplanted uterus negate the need for anti rejection drugs?

I suspect it wouldn’t be enough of an impact but no idea.

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