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Grazia magazine

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DancingLady · 30/06/2020 09:46

Another business to add to the ever-lengthening list of those happy to throw women under a bus. After JKR's essay, they gave a full page over to Munroe Bergdorf to explain to women why TWAW. No similar space offered to a woman to comment on the issue. This week, Jameela Jamil is on the front cover. I emailed them after the MB piece, didn't receive a reply. As someone who's read Grazia for over a decade, I'll no longer support a women's magazine that doesn't support women. Shame, as they had some good fashion spreads and claim to be feminist...

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audreyand · 30/06/2020 09:47

I feel the same. I will miss the fashion but there’s no way I can bring myself to buy it now.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 30/06/2020 09:47

What was Monroe Berdorf’s line of argument?

MorrisZapp · 30/06/2020 09:48

They've been woke for years, as has Stylist mag (is Stylist still in existence?). They promote MB and PL at every opportunity, with no rational opposing voice given.

merrymouse · 30/06/2020 09:49

To be fair, I imagine that Grazia is far more central to Munroe Bergdorf's identity than it is to mine.

I just still need sex based rights.

merrymouse · 30/06/2020 09:49

Sorry - Monroe.

teawamutu · 30/06/2020 09:50

Stopped buying Grazia years ago.

Stylist is awful - I stopped picking it up when they went woke. Even for free, and with a Lucy Mangan column included, I CBA to plough through such a vapid waste of trees.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/06/2020 09:54

They've been woke for years, as has Stylist mag (is Stylist still in existence?).

Yes it is but I find many of the women (like me) who follow it on Facebook for fashion, beauty trends etc aren't necessarily so woke. There was a comment under an article praising Jameela Jamil that made me laugh for hours. I wondered if it was someone from here, but I think a lot of people share our views about her!

AbsintheFriends · 30/06/2020 09:59

I had hopes that Grazia got it after this piece by Polly Vernon last year. Maybe they had a backlash from the #bekind fashionable feminists.

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dayoftheclownfish · 30/06/2020 10:03

I was always ambivalent about women's magazines, thinking they were somewhere in between women's empowerment and conformist consumerist patriarchy. Think I've made up my mind now ...

Floisme · 30/06/2020 10:09

Was just coming on to say Polly Vernon! I know she's very rude about parents sometimes but she knows what a woman is and isn't afraid to say so. She also wrote the most sensible column I've seen anywhere on Brexit.

DancingLady · 30/06/2020 10:14

@PaleBlueMoonlight Munroe talks about how JK 'chose last week to tweet comments that many trans people found offensive'. JK was insulting the lived experience of trans people... denying trans people the right to feel real...vulnerable... oppressed... marginalised... L'Oreal have re-hired MB and made a huge donation to Mermaids.

Tick, tick, tick. No view from a woman who agrees with JKR, of course.

I thought Stylist was better. Lucy Mangan is GC, I'm certain, but sadly so many female celebs won't voice support for JKR. I understand they're scared of doxing, bullying, being fired, cancelled etc but honestly, now is the time to be brave.

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DancingLady · 30/06/2020 10:14

OK I realise Lucy Mangan isn't a celeb - should've said 'so many women in the public eye/with a platform'.

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KaronAVyrus · 30/06/2020 10:20

Magazines are designed to make you feel bad about yourself so you buy more shite.
You will never be good enough, look even someone with a penis looks more fuckable than you so, quick, run out and buy more makeup, Botox, clothes made in a sweat shop to cover up your many inadequacies. Buy another magazine next month just to be reminded how old, fat, ugly and worthless you actually are.
Rinse and repeat

One of the best things a woman can do for her mental health is to stop buying magazines. Instagram is also something worth giving a swerve.

Floisme · 30/06/2020 10:22

A good fashion magasine is one of my very favourite things, although they are hard to find.

bishopgiggles · 30/06/2020 11:25

I used to have a fairly high tolerance for women's mags, would defend them to dh, but Grazia has always been a streaming pile of vacuous shite imo - I read an early issue and it's the only time I've been moved to write to a mag to describe my disappointment in how terrible it was. Really anti feminist even to my v young mind at the time! It could've changed since then, I guess...

Iggypoppie · 30/06/2020 11:33

Monroe is is an advertising and consumerist dream, all that plastic surgery, make up, hair extensions don't come cheap and these adverts are very lucrative for fashion mags.

feelingverylazytoday · 30/06/2020 11:43

@Iggypoppie

Monroe is is an advertising and consumerist dream, all that plastic surgery, make up, hair extensions don't come cheap and these adverts are very lucrative for fashion mags.
Do women really buy products that are advertised by transwomen though? I'm not sure they do, even the 'woke' 'be kind' kind of woman. I don't mean this in a nasty sense, but Monroe doesn't really look like a model at all, especially when there are so many beautiful black and mixed race women who can sell those products so well.
Worldgonecrazy · 30/06/2020 11:48

@feelingverylazytoday

I’m actively turned off buying - I used to love bluebella underwear but after the photos of berg ford I got the ick factor.

I feel the same when I read reviews on M&S of the Rosie silk underwear written by autogynephiles, it’s a massive turn off.

OvaHere · 30/06/2020 12:07

I don't think I've bought women's magazines (or virtually any magazines) in almost two decades. I'm always slightly surprised they still exist.

KaronAVyrus · 30/06/2020 12:15

I gave up magazines during the credit crunch (simply couldn’t afford them) but started to notice that I was a lot happier and I came to realise it was because I wasn’t paying to be told how shit I was.

nauticant · 30/06/2020 12:31

I don't think your post is long for this world KaronAVyrus but it did make me laugh.

contactusdeletus · 30/06/2020 13:55

Used to read them from time to time at the hairdresser. It's disappointing to see Grazia has jumped on the female erasure bandwagon, but if I'm being honest they always bored me. Clothes I can't afford, a middle class lifestyle I can't relate to at all, and ads on every second page. Magazines are one of the few things I can think of where people actually pay to have ads thrust at them.

It's not as if they're even particularly good ads. A close up of Gigi Hadid on a beach is supposed to fill me with a burning desire to go and buy . . . perfume? Lipstick? Gucci something or other?

happydappy2 · 30/06/2020 16:23

Oh Grazia.....women really don't want to spend their money being told how to be a better woman, by someone like MB. Women are women, trans women are tranwomen-there is no cross over and no similarities.

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