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Great article on Cancel culture

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BovaryX · 30/06/2020 09:41

There is an interesting article on Cancel culture in unherd. It gives various recent examples, including James Bennet in the NYT, who was removed for running an opinion piece by Tom Cotton. It asks why there isn't more political opposition from classic 'liberals' for whom freedom of speech and diversity of debate should be definitional principles. It also use quotes a historical figure whose statue looks precarious. And whose words have a grim contemporary resonance.

Each one hopes if he feeds the crocodile enough, the crocodile will eat him last

Cancel culture has yet to be cancelled. In fact, it’s never been busier and no one is safe. It doesn’t matter if you’re rich and famous, or poor and unheard of, you too can be a target. In fact, it doesn’t matter whether you meant to offend anybody — if enough people are offended, or claim to be, you can lose your privacy, your reputation or your job. Even being dead is no guarantee. If there’s some sort of monument to your memory then that too is fair game.It should be stressed that cancel culture is not the exclusive preserve of the woke Left. Performative offence-taking is something that can be engaged in by persons of just about any ideological persuasion.However, if you see a reasoned complaint about cancel culture, then it’s probably coming from a conservative or libertarian point of view. On the other side of the ‘culture war’, liberals have rather less to say about this matter

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BovaryX · 30/06/2020 09:42

unherd.com/2020/06/why-wont-liberals-defend-liberalism/

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Winesalot · 30/06/2020 10:13

awesome! I do love that after the attempt to cancel JKR and the effects of Black Lives Matter, there has been such a great focus on the dangers of cancel culture.

BovaryX · 30/06/2020 10:19

Winealot
Yes, there have been a lot of good opinion pieces. I think the Robespierre fanaticism of much of it is getting harder to ignore. There's a great Twitter thread here.

mobile.twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1277730769755009024

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Winesalot · 30/06/2020 10:22

I think the Robespierre fanaticism of much of it is getting harder to ignore. There are much to be learned from history isn't there?

BovaryX · 30/06/2020 10:27

Yes. It's the Year Zero imperative. I keep thinking of that quote from Yeats, with a gaze as blank and pitiless as the sun. It's a really strange time.

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 30/06/2020 10:36

I'm beginning to think that a full scale Cultural Revolution Pt 2 really is what some people want. They should talk to the people who lived through the first one, it wasn't fun.

BovaryX · 30/06/2020 10:53

I'm beginning to think that a full scale Cultural Revolution Pt 2 really is what some people want

Prodigal
I think so too. I doubt any of them have read about Chairman Mao or the Khmer Rouge or the Reign of Terror. I wonder how long before this?

Like Saturn, the Revolution devours its children

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BovaryX · 30/06/2020 10:57

Actually I think what the Revolution has been doing is decanting its children straight from Judith Butler College into journalism, publishing and HR. That's why we are in this mess.

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Hopeforall · 30/06/2020 11:02

I totally agree op, ut the cancellers seem to have got the upper hand and everyone is terrified of them.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 30/06/2020 11:04

They even invite people to struggle sessions, ffs. The only way this stops is for the rest of society collectively to tell them to fuck off.

BovaryX · 30/06/2020 12:05

They even invite people to struggle sessions, ffs

Prodigal
Yes. Very grim. Also, the recurrent use of the word 'eliminated.' I wonder if any of those using the word 'fascist' to denounce classic liberalisation have access to a mirror?

Hopeforall
I agree. People are terrified. Look at the Steven King recantation.

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BovaryX · 30/06/2020 12:06

liberalism not liberalisation!

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 30/06/2020 12:34

The idea that it's possible to eliminate heretical thoughts is in itself indicative of a mindset that never ends well.

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