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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Meg Rosoff 'wants to show her solidarity with JK Rowling'

42 replies

Toomuchtea · 29/06/2020 16:19

She's described in an article in The Times as 'wary ... but wants to show her solidarity with Rowling'.

Hope this link works because I can't see any option for a share token but if I have got it wrong and some kind soul can tell me how to get it right I'll try again.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/meg-rosoff-i-have-a-theory-that-adolescence-goes-on-for-the-rest-of-your-life-lk3fbfzxn

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Collidascope · 29/06/2020 16:24

That Caitlin Jenner comment made me laugh.

Toomuchtea · 29/06/2020 16:29

Thanks Badger - how do I find the share token (for future ref)?

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JemimaShore · 29/06/2020 16:37

Interesting article - she's speaks her mind, in a way few people do these days!

Apileofballyhoo · 29/06/2020 16:39

That was refreshing.

Langbannedforsafeguardingkids · 29/06/2020 16:39

Good article. Very interesting that her daughter says to her 'you can think that just don't say it'. Good for her for not heeding her daughter's advice.

Her daughter is right though. So many people are scared, so don't say what they really think. So many people believe in the biological reality that sexual dimorphism is real. That you can't change sex. That just repeating 2+2=5 doesn't actually make it so.

It's just that not many can afford to speak out.

BadgertheBodger · 29/06/2020 16:42

@Toomuchtea

Thanks Badger - how do I find the share token (for future ref)?
Under the image there’s buttons to share on email, Facebook, Twitter etc. If you click on the email icon it opens up an email then you can copy and paste the link here
thereplycamefromanchorage · 29/06/2020 16:43

Great article, and I love the sound of the book.

Interesting also that her daughter said 'you can think that, but don't say it'.

RoyalCorgi · 29/06/2020 16:43

'She adds that she remembers, while writing that book, thinking, with regard to the 93-year-old writer Jan Morris, who transitioned in 1972: “Why if she is going to be a woman is she such a ridiculous woman?” Poor Jan Morris and her twinsets and pearls. She goes on: “Why is the Kardashians’ father Bruce Jenner [now Caitlyn Jenner] such an obscenely vile woman? When he was in a corset on the cover of Vanity Fair he was putting women back years.”'

Oh dear. Earlier she mentions her daughter telling her that she could think that stuff, she just couldn't say it...

Good on her, anyway.

Toomuchtea · 29/06/2020 16:56

Thanks for the sharetoken info Badger.

I have met Meg Rosoff and she's brilliant. Funny, and yes, unfiltered.

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ArriettyJones · 29/06/2020 17:00

Thanks Meg 😊

FransDiner · 29/06/2020 17:06

Oh that offended gay men did it? Hmm

Rosoff has been writing about gender for years. Her third novel, What I Was, was about a boy who falls in love with a boy who turns out not to be a boy. It didn’t go down well with everyone. “I was invited to a gay man’s book group to talk about the book and I was really badly attacked for making a character who wasn’t gay enough. And Patrick Ness [the gay children’s author] was attacking me viciously on Twitter, saying, ‘Oh typical! The boy has to turn out to be a girl.’ But that’s not what I am talking about; it was about the question of what is the perfect boy and girl.”

I do hope that her daughter isn't given heaps of shit from friends because of the "you can think it not say it" comment as of course thought crimes are the worst crimes and literally violent.

PurpleCrowbarWhereIsLangCleg · 29/06/2020 17:14

Oh good!

Another actual grown up in the room.

highame · 29/06/2020 17:34

This is interesting. My grandson was telling me about the talks that had been given at school about trans kids. My grandson has been brought up to understand differences and accept them but he has also been taught to discuss stuff. He said that he felt as though you couldn't say anything, so everyone just sat there quietly. Not a good look really, is it?

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 29/06/2020 18:05

Hurrah something to read when I finish the Galbraith books Grin

“women have had experiences that a young boy will never have — of being dismissed and doubted and all that stuff“ well quite plus all that inconvenient biology that moulds women’s lives.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 29/06/2020 18:08

Disappointed in Patrick Ness.
I love Meg Rosoff, and teenage dd likes her books, despite what she says in the interview!

Callmejudith · 29/06/2020 18:09

Buying her book immediately!

PheasantPlucker1 · 29/06/2020 18:11

Ive never heard of her before, off to search Kindle for books

She clearly give no fucks Grin

Melroses · 29/06/2020 18:23

That was good, and I totally agree with her about box sets.

PerditaProvokesEnmity · 29/06/2020 18:24

Meg Rosoff is the only writer I have ever written to in abject admiration. (She sent a wonderfully gracious reply.) I read What I Was in my forties - and it's one of the books of my life. (Rather a shame the Times planted such a gross spoiler in the middle of their article,)

It's amazing how cautious people are compelled to be - even when they're pretty much untouchable.

Siablue · 29/06/2020 18:29

I love Meg Rosoff. She is another one who has serious Fuck you money so can afford to speak out. She come across as the sort of person who would anyway.

Young adult authors are more likely to be accused of transphobia. Holly Bourne got into trouble for writing about periods. It doesn’t seem to affect their sales though.

Needmoresleep · 29/06/2020 18:42

She sounds fun.

I used to know people who lived in a squat near the British museum, and who went to art school nearby. I am delving deep into my memory. Was one of them an American called Meg.....

AsTreesWalking · 29/06/2020 23:04

I love Meg Rosoff. She has no fucks to give.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 29/06/2020 23:06

I loved 'How I Live Now'. Heartening.

contactusdeletus · 29/06/2020 23:31

Isn't Patrick Ness all aboard the gender identity train? Or am I confusing him with someone else?

I could have sworn he did a young adult Doctor Who series or something with trans characters, and gave all these interviews about it that made him a bit of a darling among genderist teens. Up there with Rick Riordan in their eyes, I thought.

I'll have to Google it. Surely he couldn't have pulled such a complete 180 Hmm

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