Woodcraft folk

[Kit19]

Anyone sending their children to this lot might want to have a read

Geez they completely just ignored all the info didnt they and just parent the "script"

Background checks are out of fashion now I presume ?

Dr Em’s comment is here
mobile.twitter.com/PankhurstEM/status/1275513324877361153

I do have children abs I’ve honeatly never heard of it. My son goes to Beavers, I’ve also seen and heard of Sea Cadets and other military children’s groups but I’ve never hear of this Woodfolk thing outside of here. I just assumed it was s kind of exclusive wealthy person thing. But you seem to be offended by that notion so I’ll go back to my assumption that I live under a rock.

I too recall woodcraft folk from the 80s/90s, back then it seemed v middle class and “woke”. It was mixed sex. I don’t recall whether they did overnight trips: if they now do and my DC attended would be asking Qs!

I just assumed it was s kind of exclusive wealthy person thing. But you seem to be offended by that notion so I’ll go back to my assumption that I live under a rock

I didn't mean to bite.....but so often on this board people get written off or dismissed as " middle class" - and it usually a put down, a bit like accusations of " white privilege" .

I've lived in quite various parts of the U.K, and am now back in my home city of Liverpool ( where there was a Woodcraft branch in the early 1980's- I know because a friend's children attended), and What is seen as 'middle class' really depends on your perspective; your location, and also to an extent one's political ideology.

To me it is higher education/self education and the cultures that arise from that are what tends to make someone 'middle class' these days. Not necessarily a background of privilege or wealth.

I went a few times in the 1970's with my Grandad who I think had been quite involved when he was a young man.
DD tried out our local group but it required parents to help out on a regular basis and it was a day I couldn't do and DH decided that the group was a bit too wild and feral for him! It was definitely a group with many free spirits in it

My DC are spread across two groups, for various reasons. One is definitely not MC, very underprivileged kids go there and get their only holidays a year through the various camps. The other one more mixed class wise. Maybe a reflection of geographic area. It is anti militaristic, for peace, for inclusion. I don't see this policy as in contradiction with all that.

By 'mixed sex' do you mean that children share all sleeping and washing facilities? Because if not, going trans would make a difference.

I don’t think organisations should be promoting the idea to children that they can be born in the wrong body

It is anti militaristic, for peace, for inclusion.

Doesn't aligning with an authoritarian quasi-religious ideology conflict with this?

I'm not sure middle class is even right. Just alternative/hippy really

It's a crusty middle class thing where I am, usually vegan types who claim they're poor despite living in huge houses in the most middle class areas of the city. Infact, all the woodcraft folk groups are in the very middle class areas and army/navy cadets are in the very poor areas.

@GracieLane

Army, sea and air cadets seemed to be quite working class though or kids who's family had a military background

Cadets are usually free - even in terms of fees for camps and equipment for camps, and can lead to a good career. It appeals to a lot of WC and even poor families.

I just looked for the city I work in and the town I live now, and the town I lived in as a child (I attended as a child). No groups now. Lots of hits in Sussex.
By the way, one “competitor” scouting, has changed since I was a child so most groups will be for both sexes and vegans are probably fed on camp without fuss.

Army, sea and air cadets seemed to be quite working class though or kids who's family had a military background

Lots of independent schools have cadet forces too.

@Goosefoot

Yeah many of the boys I knew who went to army cadets signed up to military/navy later on. I know lots of people now who's older kids go to sea cadets. Mine aren't old enough yet but I'm going to struggle to keep my boys away from free camping! We are definitely poor, so can't afford to take them camping myself (maybe I will iN a few years though)

Well now I’m really intrigued, I’ve actually got one very close by!!