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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

BBC again Ben Hunte

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PaleBlueMoonlight · 19/06/2020 15:31

Article trending now on BBC news website about opposition too Truss leak. Includes this untruth.

"Currently, the Gender Recognition Act requires trans people to go through a long and medical process in order to change their birth certificates. For this reason, many do not, and instead rely on the Equality Act 2010 which allows any trans person who has transitioned to be recognised as their acquired gender. Transitioning does not have to include surgery."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53101071

This is all getting a bit tedious.

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Datun · 19/06/2020 15:32

They have to have a diagnosis of gender dysphoria. That's it.

And if you haven't got gender dysphoria, why the fuck do you need a gender recognition certificate?

PaleBlueMoonlight · 19/06/2020 15:38

I am complaining about the misrepresentation of the Equality Act. It says nothing about recognising someone in their acquired gender.

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OvaHere · 19/06/2020 15:39

Helen Joyce has a twitter thread on this article and has put in a complaint.

twitter.com/HJoyceGender/status/1273976564615692289

Xanthangum · 22/06/2020 17:11

According to Pnk Nws Crispin Blunt and 150 other assorted bods have written a 'scathing' letter to the BBC about Ben Hunte's piece.

They are miffed that it included a quote from Joan Smith.

But the weird thing is I can find no sign of the letter anywhere, other than it's being reference in the PN article here www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/06/22/bbc-news-institutional-transphobia-kamal-ahmed-crispin-blunt-trans-media-watch/

Can anyone find it? I'm keen to read the full list of signatories.

SunsetBeetch · 23/06/2020 10:35

From FPFW:

"The BBC published an inaccurate & biased story on GRA reform. Following complaints on twitter it was drastically revised & errors removed.

Here's a summary of what got changed. t.co/hXHg3iOvgg

If you think the BBC must do better complain.
t.co/Tn3jAZL3Hb t.co/OAuNyZbNtK "

twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1275103243694149632?s=19

OhHolyJesus · 23/06/2020 10:46

@Xanthangum I've seen something on gay star news about letter, nothing on any mainstream news outlet as far as I can tell.

OhHolyJesus · 23/06/2020 10:50

www.gaystarnews.com/article/mps-and-trans-campaigners-accuse-the-bbc-of-being-institutionally-transphobic/

To save the click traffic:
MPs and trans campaigners accuse the BBC of being 'instituionally transphobic'

One leading gay Conservative MP, Crispin Blunt, is also raising concerns with the BBC’s Director General.
A cross-party group of Members of Parliament and leading trans activists have accused BBC News of being ‘institutionally transphobic’.
In a letter they raise concerns about recent BBC News coverage. In particular they cite JK Rowling’s anti-trans comments and UK equalities minister Liz Truss’ plans for trans law reform.
Moreover the letter claims there is a group of anti-trans journalists within the UK’s national broadcaster. And it says the BBC is giving them ‘free rein to take potshots at trans people’.
One of the signatories is gay Conservative MP, Crispin Blunt, chair of the All Party Parliamentary Group on Global LGBT+ Rights.
GSN understands that Blunt will also raise the concerns with the BBC Director General Tony Hall. Hall is, in effect, the ultimate editor-in-chief of the organization.
Concerns the BBC prioritizes anti-trans views
Trans Media Watch coordinated the letter. They told GSN that they had been worried about BBC News coverage of trans issues for some time.
However, the BBC re-writing a report last week to include more anti-trans commentary was the final straw.
The original report was about a cross-party group of MPs trying to stop the UK bringing in new anti-trans legislation.
However, Trans Media Watch says BBC News then updated the story to add more anti-trans arguments.
Moreover, they claim BBC News is habitually taking an anti-trans view. As an example, they cite the broadcaster’s reporting of JK Rowling’s transphobic comments this month.
They claim the broadcaster prioritized anti-trans comments without giving space in the main article for a trans organization to respond.
‘The very definition of institutional discrimination and hatred’
The letter to Kamal Ahmed, director of BBC News, concludes:
‘You are treating the lives and existence of a significant minority not as a matter of dignity or human rights, but as a culture war within which your anti-trans journalists – and we are well aware that such exist at the BBC – are given free rein to take potshots at trans people.
‘Along the way, you are applying a new and different standard to the writing of stories with a trans angle. This is the very definition of institutional discrimination and hatred and it is time it stopped.’
Over 100 people have signed the letter, including politicians from major parties and trans and LGBT+ community leaders.
GSN has approached the BBC for a response and is awaiting a reply.
UPDATE: BBC responds
The BBC responded shortly after GSN published this story.
A BBC spokesperson said:
‘The BBC is committed to telling stories from the LGBTQ+ community and has a specialist correspondent dedicated to bringing these stories to a wider audience.
‘Our reporting of the consultation of the Gender Recognition Act and JK Rowling’s transgender comments both contain opposing viewpoints, as would be expected in stories where there is a public debate.
‘The BBC approaches every story with the same rigorous impartiality.’ Hmm

Xanthangum · 23/06/2020 10:55

Thanks Sunset, that's useful but it's the letter mentioned by PN I'm specifically looking for.

The article quotes the letter, but I cant find evidence of the original, either by looking through Trans Media Watch's social media or their website, or by googling bits of the text - some extracts below:

"The letter continues: “The correct ‘balance’ in such a piece would be comment from Liz Truss, the target of their remarks, or the GEO, the department for which, in her capacity as minister for equalities, she is responsible.

“It seems very clear that the BBC is dealing with trans issues in a way it should never contemplate dealing with issues relating to any protected characteristic under the Equality Act.

“You are treating the lives and existence of a significant minority not as a matter of dignity or human rights, but as a culture war within which your anti-trans journalists – and we are well aware that such exist at the BBC – are given free rein to take potshots at trans people."

Xanthangum · 23/06/2020 10:58

Aha, thanks OHJesus.

So two news articles but nothing from the mainstream media, and neither article actually lists all the signatories. And then the BBC tells them to beg off anyway.

FantaOra · 23/06/2020 11:29

Great thread by Helen. As usual this loathesome turd shows up, this time to mansplain feminism to Helen.

CritFacts, the anti-transphobe doom enby
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19 Jun
Replying to
@HJoyceGender
Hold up

You're saying we should treat people differently based on their biological sex, without regard for how they want to be treated.

That is the opposite of feminism, Helen.

LillianBland · 23/06/2020 11:41

Oh dear. The poor old beeb, who have bent over backwards to paint trans people as the most oppressed of all the oppressed have been weighed, they have been measured and they have been found wanting. This should be a hint, that no one will ever be woke enough and all will fall down the purity spiral. It’s like a trans remake of Highlander. 😁

SunsetBeetch · 23/06/2020 12:24
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