TRA, family views and a drag queen video

[Lucywilde]

This morning my brother sent me a video of a drag queen explaining about how JK Rowling was wrong. He said he really wanted me to watch it as it was very important and very eloquently put apparently. I lasted about 4 minutes then had to switch it off. For reference my brother is early 40s, gay and lives in the States. I’ve tried not getting into anything about the TR movement as we don’t agree. I think because he felt it was tough growing up gay that he has sympathy with this particular group. He knows some trans people and apparently they’re lovely.

I have two daughters both with Sen. Men being in women’s spaces is a huge worry for me. And what it means for women everywhere. I feel like we’re going backwards on women’s rights.

Aside from not getting into this with him, are there any links that I could use that would give him a better understanding? Though this maybe a waste of time as I’m not sure he wants to hear it.

I do completely agree that even one person attacked is not acceptable and I’m not trying to minimise that in any way. I think a third space for trans people is a good compromise.

I think what I’m trying to say is that the issue is wider than trans women being allowed access to women’s spaces. Violence against women is such a massive issue and it feels like people are trying to lay the blame at trans women’s feet and saying there will be w huge increase in sexual violence when actually the main perpetrator of this is men and i therefore think that way more needs to be done to stop that behaviour. It makes sense to me to eliminate the greatest threat If that makes sense?

caliie great idea. In the UK we had a system whereby the main offenders, the men, where sometimes kept apart from the group they wished to offend against. Do you think that system would be worth a try?

Calliecat, it's not so much that a small % of crimes against women are committed by transwomen, because obviously they are themselves only a small % of the population.

The question is, do transwomen commit crime at a lower rate than cis men?

The only robust study I've seen is this Swedish one:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043071/

which says they commit crimes at more or less the same rate as any other natal males:
"Second, regarding any crime, male-to-females had a significantly increased risk for crime compared to female controls (aHR 6.6; 95% CI 4.1–10.8) but not compared to males (aHR 0.8; 95% CI 0.5–1.2). This indicates that they retained a male pattern regarding criminality.
The same was true regarding violent crime.

By contrast, female-to-males had higher crime rates than female controls (aHR 4.1; 95% CI 2.5–6.9) but did not differ from male controls. This indicates a shift to a male pattern regarding criminality and that sex reassignment is coupled to increased crime rate in female-to-males.
The same was true regarding violent crime."
(My italics)

I 100% agree with you that men are the greatest threat and shamefully we still have huge numbers of crimes from men against women. Very little is changing in that area. I do however wonder why trans women despite identifying as women are committing male crimes. Very few trans women actually have surgery so keep the biological weapon often used against women to rape and assault them as well as their biological strength from being male. I have an issue that some of those crimes are being recorded as female crimes based on gender identity and that makes official statistics pointless. Its not about hating trans people, there was so much support at the beginning for third spaces to support and protect trans people, then to be met with violence, aggression and no debate put an end to that support. Women have lost their jobs from speaking out in defence of women's spaces, been doxed and their children's schools doxed for daring to speak out, violently attacked and abused constantly. I wonder why the op`s brother seems very quiet on that aspect? Many ignore it.

CallieCat19 it has been said a million times that the problem is that trans women are exactly as likely as men to be a danger to women and children, and that opening up women's spaces to self-identified trans women allows all men in.
That's before you get into any discussion of the rate of sex-offenders in the trans prison population, or the relative femininity of trans persons, or 'this never happens'.