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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Anyone else lost friends for supporting JK Rowling?

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teabaseddiet · 17/06/2020 00:32

I've been GC for 2-3 years now but have been selective about what I've put on Facebook.

I posted JK Rowling's explanation of her tweets & have since had a number of my friends disagreeing with me directly, posting statements about being surrounded by idiots, or unfriending me directly.

These are people I've known, in person, for years. If I'm honest, I'm disappointed that they didn't want to at least talk about it, or be prepared to accept we have different views on this.

I keep reading about lots of people whose friends are becoming GC after JKR stood up for us all, and I'm feeling a bit sorry for myself!

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dayoftheclownfish · 18/06/2020 14:39

If you have to cut out a friend, what does that say about you?

SomeDyke · 18/06/2020 14:49

Reading some of these accounts, it reminds me of what used to happen to people I knew when they came out as gay --people would lose friends, families would disown them etc etc. Many people kept it secret, fearing for their jobs/friends/what their Mum would say. Except some people were brave, and came out anyway. That was what it needed, eventually attitudes change.

Similarly here -- I'm not saying everyone can be brave, but everyone can realise what a sick and insidious state of affairs it is, when women are being made afraid to say something about who they are as a sex (and who isn't). Don't let then 'shame' us all into staying silent, they've tried threats of violence already to keep us quiet, but somehow trying to not cause trouble and be 'polite' and not upset friends and family, that kept more people in the closet than fists and threats ever did.

You know it's true, and it's nothing to be ashamed of, recognising that being female matters, and that we shouldn't be made afraid to state that. It's the same struggle, just coming at us from another direction. And oddly enough, it's lesbians getting it in the neck again! Although from our supposed allies and from the organisations we set up, that is really taking the piss...........

steppemum · 18/06/2020 17:07

SomeDyke the problem is though that the trans community see them selves as the brave ones standing up against the flow, and that we are the majority who will disown them etc,

This is depsite the fatc that feminist have said over and over again that we need ot find a way to help vulnerable trans people which doesn't tread on women's rights.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 18/06/2020 18:44

I get the impression that, not only do the TRAs not care if trans rights trample on women’s rights, they actually want them to!

They don’t want compromise, they want our total capitulation and subjugation.

myohmywhatawonderfulday · 18/06/2020 19:36

What does GC stand for?

heathspeedwell · 18/06/2020 19:52

GC means gender critical, that means we think that gender is a social construct that changes depending on the location and the point in history.

For example, the colour pink was considered to be too masculine for girls in the UK until about 80 years ago. While in the US a desire to play football (which they call soccer) is very much considered to be an indication of femininity.

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