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So who's read 'The Ickabog'?

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WhatAWonderfulDay · 14/06/2020 23:49

I've got halfway through it and it's so 'emperor's new clothes' meets '1984' meets fairy tales...
www.theickabog.com/read-the-story/

It's supposed to be written years ago but is so topical! Don't know if it's been discussed here.
Loving it so far... but also half wondering if there was a reason it was released now.

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NonnyMouse1337 · 15/06/2020 00:59

I've been reading it... Though I haven't had a chance for the last few days so will need to get through a few chapters soon! It's great tha JKR has released it online for free.

AnotherLass · 15/06/2020 01:13

I've been reading it, really enjoying it

langclegflavoredbananamush · 15/06/2020 04:01

According to her, she wrote it when her children were small, and decided to publish books for adults first. She read it to her kids when they were small, and came to think of it as just for them. Then the lockdown started, and she wanted to do something for all the kids stuck at home. She had the idea to release it chapter by chapter and have an illustration contest, with winners appearing in the published books. (She isn’t one of the judges). Kids started posting their illustrations on Twitter, some of which are truly delightful (hashtag Ickabog), and Jo wrote some really perceptive and sweet replies to some of the kids, which must have thrilled them to pieces. But then TRAs invaded the threads with their sheer horribleness, so she’s stopped doing it. So sad.

I agree that the story is amazingly topical, with everyone expected to go along with the dogma or else. I mean, Professor Fraudysham, really. A wonderful story.

It’s well worth reading first, then visiting the hashtag to see the pictures from kids, maybe like and reply since Jo can’t now.

TehBewilderness · 15/06/2020 05:15

I enjoyed the pictures and her responses on twitter as much as I have the story, so far, though I confess I am a book gulper so serializations give me the aggravations.
It is like being a kid again and waiting for the next installment of a story in one of the science fiction pulps.

rivierliedje · 15/06/2020 11:27

I really love it too and I remember it being mentioned around 2007 ish in interviews as a political fairy tale for younger children, but it was then never published, so I am so glad it is now.
I have never read a book in serialisation before and am quite enjoying the experience

WhatAWonderfulDay · 15/06/2020 12:04

I've been really enjoying it. Much more than I expected - probably because of the political angle.
She can really tell a story!! (Well, yes, of course she can!!)

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MyEnormousTurnip · 15/06/2020 12:12

Dd (yr6) is reading it with her (very small) class now she’s back at school. And is loving every word.

Although she did come home and say “mum you know JK Rowling has......” and I expected something she’d heard on TikTok about Twitter etc but then she followed up with “....released a new book” and I must admit I did give a slight sigh of relief Grin

missbunnyrabbit · 15/06/2020 12:17

I'm only a few chapters in but enjoying it a lot! I love her sense of humour.

ISaySteadyOn · 15/06/2020 13:40

I've just gulped all 29 chapters. Can't wait for more!

Enderthedragon · 15/06/2020 13:47

I'm reading it with my kids at the moment, we are only about 6 or 7 chapters in at the moment, but enjoying it!

Campervan69 · 15/06/2020 15:37

On a walk with my 8-year old and his friend and heard him telling his friend that JK Rowling was on television this morning because she was in trouble on Twitter for saying that you were born male or female. His friend said but that's true. Yes said my son but people on Twitter got very angry about it and mum was up till 3 a.m.

TheChampagneGalop · 15/06/2020 15:47

Professor Fraudysham Grin

SquishySquirmy · 15/06/2020 16:22

I'm really enjoying it.
I like the way it considers the ways in which people can be made complicit in lies (fear, money, power, social pressure and threats to their families). Even the most honest, brave characters have been forced to either believe or tell a lie by the latest chapter
(Even Daisy "my name is Jane" etc).

Although that theme seems particularly topical now, you could find parallels with any period in history. Like how 1984 has seemed spookily relevant at various points since it was written.

WomaninBoots · 15/06/2020 16:26

@Campervan69

On a walk with my 8-year old and his friend and heard him telling his friend that JK Rowling was on television this morning because she was in trouble on Twitter for saying that you were born male or female. His friend said but that's true. Yes said my son but people on Twitter got very angry about it and mum was up till 3 a.m.
GrinGrinGrin love that!

Off to read the Ickabog!

MollyAtTheFolly · 15/06/2020 16:31

I'm reading it a chapter a day with my class. We're only on Chapter 5 but we're enjoying it very much.

Good on JKR for releasing it for free.

littlbrowndog · 15/06/2020 16:34

Read it all. So far

I like the hopping only on a left leg !!

It’s scary 😮😮

littlbrowndog · 15/06/2020 16:34

And yes the coercion of people to lie

contactusdeletus · 15/06/2020 17:02

@SquishySquirmy

I'm really enjoying it. I like the way it considers the ways in which people can be made complicit in lies (fear, money, power, social pressure and threats to their families). Even the most honest, brave characters have been forced to either believe or tell a lie by the latest chapter (Even Daisy "my name is Jane" etc).

Although that theme seems particularly topical now, you could find parallels with any period in history. Like how 1984 has seemed spookily relevant at various points since it was written.

This. I devoured all the published chapters in one sitting today, and find myself really struck by what a powerful story it tells. Oh, it's all dressed up like a fairytale and at first glance Fred and his court seem amusing - there's a definite Blackadder III vibe to them, it's hard not to hear Fred's lines in Hugh Laurie's voice! - but as the story progresses it all takes a more sinister turn.

Privilege causes vanity, which causes selfishness, which causes self-interest, which is in turn served by power. And suddenly other people aren't really real, they don't really matter any more, because they don't fit the world you would prefer to live in. And if other people don't matter then their truth doesn't matter, their freedom doesn't matter, ultimately, even their lives don't matter. The book exposes children to this in a very appropriate way. It really does read like a child-friendly Orwell.

Al1Langdownthecleghole · 15/06/2020 23:08

It's a beautiful thing.

#teamdaisy

langclegflavoredbananamush · 16/06/2020 11:38

JKR just started sharing children's illustrations from the Ickabog, I saw the first one about 5 minutes in, and by 10 minutes in the the haters were already trying to ruin the replies thread...

NotEvenTheKing · 16/06/2020 11:47

I haven't read it yet. Think I'm going to wait for the physical book. But I've been really enjoying all the children's artwork. So many talented children and I just love her for taking the time to write really personalised replies. So pleased she's come back to do this for the children.

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