Revisionist criticism of JKR says she is wrong because she refers to ROGD and this is not an "accepted" medical term!!

[stumbledin]

As has been said on other threads is that the way in which the mainstream media is whipping up the bullying of JKR is taking a twitter war way beyond what would have been bruising enough.

It is as though this has given the embedded misogyny a platform to "legitimately" condemn a woman speaking the truth to be held up to ridicule to the public.

But I suspect the papers have now realised from comments their articles get that many ordinary people living outside of the media bubble are not part of the TWAW cult.

So there is now a new tactic. We aren't being horrible to JKR we are just pointing out she doesn't know her facts.

So the i paper has published an article as though it is a news report, ie researched and verified, that says JKR's big sin is to have referred to ROGD. And the i has found the evidence that this concept is flawed and not accepted by the medical profession.

So I was searching for this article on line(*) but, surprise surprise, it turns out the i's "reporter is in fact another trans warrior who spends all her time on twitter challenging GC "myths".

twitter.com/the__chez?lang=en

No surprise that yet again a so called newspaper is misrepresenting a personal opinion piece as fact based report.

(*) I cant find it online by the way - title is "Key term in Rowling's essay "is controversial" by Jasmine Adnersson

What a surprise. Not.
They really are the most poisonous, vindictive, lying bunch of bullying cowards on the planet.

Dear Lord, the concept is not flawed- it needs more investigation and proper research. No, it’s not a medical term but it is a useful descriptive term and when used, people who are aware of the issue know what you are talking about. It’s also used as a descriptive term by many in the medical profession- e.g. I attended a seminar at the Scottish Parliament a few months ago and one of the speakers, Dr David Bell from the Portman Clinic, referred to ROGD several times.

People just don’t want to admit it exists for a cohort (usually girls) now IDing as the opposite sex. Their existence is rather inconvenient so better to pick apart the term than push for research into why there has been a 4000% increase in referrals to the Tavi.

Thing is, you show them the clinicians using the term, then instead of responding they just move the goalposts to another criticism that isn't really a rebuttal, or say "but what about xyz", and when you address that they move onto the next thing, without ever actually engaging, and that's "debate" on social media in 2020.

article - not sure if it will be legibile

We know that adolescent girls, from time immemorial have taken psychological hurt and confusion out on their bodies, sometime the only thing the feel they can control.

We binge, purge, starve, cut, but suddenly it is out of the question that binding, mastectomies, testosterone might be another way that girls attempt to exert control and externalise their internal feelings? To make what feels wrong feel right? To make the unbearable bearable?

Aye right.

Thanks for the screenshot.

Arrrggghh, it’s not “forming absolute conclusions about gender identity”! It’s saying that “ROGD” adolescent cases are complex and need thorough investigation, not a jump to an assumption that some innate gender identity is at play. FFS

On another thread, cant remember which!, have posted that WPUK are urging anyone who has the time to complain to IPSO about newspaper coverage on JKR.

I would think this could be called misrepresentation. Should have been an opinion piece not a news item.

I have made a complaint so will wait and see what happens.

And no surprise today there is another long article, trying to be a bit more balanced, but on every occasion they name and give quotes to people who are criticising JKR but just allude to "others" who support her.

You would have thought the print media would feel better able to do balanced reporting.

But then there is nothing more that the press likes than trashing someone they have helped to big up. Particularly if the are a woman.

@sleepyhead

We know that adolescent girls, from time immemorial have taken psychological hurt and confusion out on their bodies, sometime the only thing the feel they can control.

We binge, purge, starve, cut, but suddenly it is out of the question that binding, mastectomies, testosterone might be another way that girls attempt to exert control and externalise their internal feelings? To make what feels wrong feel right? To make the unbearable bearable?

Aye right.

Such a good comment. Thank you

Revisiting JKR's essay. This alleged 'key term' is mentioned once and is contextualised appropriately.

I am starting to think the trans rights activists are not very good at reading or else they are a tiny bit disingeunous.

*disingenuous

(serves me right for trying to be a smart-arse about literacy, yes)

It's socially acceptable, and encouraged, self harm.

I am starting to think the trans rights activists are not very good at reading or else they are a tiny bit disingeunous.

Probably - but that makes it even more concerning that the MSM is putting their ill thought out views into print as though they were the equivilent to a well researched article.

I've heard of affirmative parenting, but now we seem to have affirmative publishing!

Speaking of publishing has anyone read about the New York Times and the sacking of James Bennet?

Hang onto your hats because we truly are on the road to hell

The i describes Lisa Littman simply as an academic, omitting to mention that she is also a medical doctor. Indeed, she is an OBGYN by training (with a background in Public Health) so definitely knows what a woman is.

If you haven't seen it, Benjamin Boyce's interview with Lisa Littman and Sasha Ayad is a fascinating counterbalance to all the criticism about her paper on ROGD.

uncommongroundmedia.com/rapid-onset-gender-dysphoria-a-primer/

The huge increase in the number of people who never displayed any indicators of gender dysphoria for about the first 14 years of their life, who suddenly become transgender at about age 14, needs a term to describe it. I think that ROGD (rapid onset gender dysphoria) seems a reasonably good descriptor, at least for now.

The sudden increase in sudden transgenderism is a new phenomenon. Transgender activists want gender-critical people's analysis of this social issue to be ridiculed or ignored out of existence because I think they know it shows signs of social contagion through peer pressure that negates the typical transgenderism-approved mode of isolated self-discovery without external influences, which is the preferred style of revelation so favoured in transgender people's life stories.

Transgenderism supporters claim that there is a large increase in numbers because people now have the courage to come out as transgender. I think that seems transphobic and dismissive of transgender people of previous generations because it seems to imply that those previous generations were too cowardly to come out as transgender (bearing in mind that transphobia was not as severe in previous decades or centuries compared to today's alleged hell on earth for transgender people). Much evidence suggests that previous generations of people were more resilient and more courageous than the current generation.

I think it is helpful to distinguish between three groups of transgender people because I think their problems or issues are different, partly because they have different causes; and they need different support strategies:
(a) pre-pubescent children who are gender non-conforming from infancy with no conscious encouragement from adults
(b) pre-pubescent children pushed into transgenderism by adults, particularly by their own parents
(c) pubescent teenagers who discover transgenderism through their peer groups and through adult transgenderism activists (this is the group most associated with ROGD).