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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Oh the Irony.

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Al1Langdownthecleghole · 10/06/2020 12:23

When was the consultation on this? This destruction of statues is some sort of post-truth nightmare. What next? Renaming roads you do not like?

Gotta love this, from Steph.

Consultations matters when removing statues, but seemingly not the rights of women and girls.
The destruction of statues is some sort of post-truth nightmare. The destruction of women and girl's identity, not so much.
What next? Renaming roads you don't like? Do tell us, after sport, prisons, biological reality, women's only spaces, women's only awards, what are you going to colonise next?

twitter.com/flyinglawyer73/status/1270426388940685312?s=20

Oh the Irony.
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AbsintheFriends · 10/06/2020 12:57

Just when you think Steph couldn't possibly display a bigger lack of self-awareness, Steph always comes up with the goods.

NonnyMouse1337 · 10/06/2020 13:10

Post-truth nightmare.

Yup, the idea that womanhood is a feeling and any man can claim to be a woman and demand access to single-sex spaces.

DidoLamenting · 10/06/2020 14:12

I have some sympathy with Steph. I'm not comfortable at all with the demands for erasing the past, especially when it comes to ridiculous levels such as Queen Victoria, Robert Peel, William Gladstone and William Wilberforce.

I don't like mob rule and the band wagon jumping being done by Sadiq Khan and the Lord Provost of Glasgow.

DidoLamenting · 10/06/2020 14:13

oh and btw Steph's views on trans rights are completely irrelevant as to whether or not she has a view on this.

Al1Langdownthecleghole · 10/06/2020 14:41

It's the language though Dido.

Steph wasn't demanding the consultation on the GRA but thinks we need one about statues. Even a statue of a man has more rights than a living woman.

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donquixotedelamancha · 10/06/2020 14:46

Steph's views on trans rights are completely irrelevant as to whether or not she has a view on this.

Yes and no. She's a leading proponent of the idea that you should not be able to discuss a number of topics around sex and gender because they are 'transphobic'.

To take the view that censorship and erasure of history are bad, but only when they relate to treatment of minority ethnicities, is certainly ironic.

BaronessRadishFemish · 10/06/2020 14:56

I don't think that removing a statue is erasing the past.

We still know what the bad man did; it'll be in the history books.

Didn't statues of Jimmy Savile get removed? What's the difference? (Apart from the shameful delay.)

Gncq · 10/06/2020 14:57

It's just more hypocrisy isn't it, like the hashtag #bekind being supported by people who just told JKR to "suck my dick and balls".

BaronessRadishFemish · 10/06/2020 14:57

The views are relevant to the hypocrisy.

BaronessRadishFemish · 10/06/2020 15:00

Calling it erasing the past is as hyperbolic as when we are constantly told by some people that we are denying their very existence.

BaronessRadishFemish · 10/06/2020 15:02

I bet someone is googling statue/savile..

I might've made that up.

ItsLateHumpty · 10/06/2020 15:37

Steph's views on trans rights are completely irrelevant as to whether or not she has a view on this.

Except when S Hayden tweets this to the mayor of London:

Stephanie Hayden @ flyinglawyer73

This may come as a shock to you but no one elected the BLM movement. Decisions in a democracy are made democratically via processes recognised by the rule of law. In your own words, ‘You have a lot to learn’.

Replace BLM with TRA and I’d agree with you.

twitter.com/flyinglawyer73/status/1270609510969806848

DidoLamenting · 10/06/2020 18:07

Still irrelevant.

Again I happen to agree with her re BLM- especially whoever the anonymous organisers responsible for the BLM UK funding page calling for dismantling capitalism and the police.

EvilBug · 10/06/2020 18:25

I also loved this gem

It is sod all to do with slave traders. There is a statue, it has been there however long, in a modern democracy you just do not take them down because one group in society might take issue. Otherwise when do you stop? It is absurd.

(My bold)

And then someone posted a picture of the Adult Human Female poster Grin

Freespeecher · 10/06/2020 19:32

I agree with Steph on this. Just further evidence for my theory that, if you take any three people, you'll eventually find subjects that set any two of them against the other one.

NotTerfNorCis · 10/06/2020 19:41

post-truth nightmare

We're in a place where reality is what people say it is, Steph, and you helped make it so.

ItsLateHumpty · 10/06/2020 23:51

@EvilBug

I also loved this gem

It is sod all to do with slave traders. There is a statue, it has been there however long, in a modern democracy you just do not take them down because one group in society might take issue. Otherwise when do you stop? It is absurd.

(My bold)

And then someone posted a picture of the Adult Human Female poster Grin

Hahahahaha that’s brilliant Grin

It’s not about whether I agree or disagree with S Hayden; it is about the fact that S Hayden and co. have in their activism bought about the very thing they whine about because now it’s ‘against’ them. It seems democracy is now largely irrelevant, if you are the flavour of the day.

TL:DR what NotTerfNorCis said.

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