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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Comedian Will Franken changes to Sarah and then back

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SunsetBeetch · 24/05/2020 17:44

Ok this article is from 2015, but has been recently unearthed by twitter user Ella Witchwood.

www.beyondthejoke.co.uk/content/2344/exclusive-will-franken-changing-back-sarah-will

Very illuminating article, although he probably doesn't realise it. Some extracts:

"In every interview I've given on the topic of transgenderism, I was always clear that I had no intention to either have the operation or undergo hormone therapy. I harboured no plans to physically alter my body in any way whatsoever. This goes to the same reason I will never get a tattoo – a disdain for permanency. My life is all about change as my art is all about change – despite knowing all-too-well that the comedy industry loathes change. They want you to be ONE THING. Because they can only sell you if you're ONE THING. In some interviews, I even proffered that my transgenderism was the result of nurture over nature. I stated that my feminine inclinations were learned behaviours from my formative years and not an innate sense of being born in the wrong body. These important caveats were often omitted in publication, presumably to keep in alignment with the current trans-narrative of “Man Becomes Woman And Finds Pot Of Gold At End Of rainbow" "

"I've conversed with a few trans-women who told me that in their prior existences they had lived as gay men, for which I considered their decision to fully transition more understandable. Admittedly, there was a sense of belonging when the girls would invite me for tea and ask me what I thought about a boy's text messages. And, perhaps out of a sense of tact, I would only admit my sexual preference for women if directly asked, lest my appearance be misconstrued as some sort of grand infiltration of the secret female world. But very quickly, I became consumed with a terrible loneliness – almost as if I had unwittingly become the court eunuch. It's one thing to feel lonely as a man. It's quite another to feel lonely as a trans. A friend recently asked me, “What if you're still lonely as Will?” I responded, “At least I'm in with a chance.” "

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popehilarious · 24/05/2020 20:06

Interesting read. I don't know this person at all - from the article he seems quite honest and self-analytical.

The first thing that struck me was that, for all that this is a sort of 'explanatory' piece, there is no explanation as to what "living as Sarah" or "living as Will" specifically meant/means. Did he genuinely feel that he had a different personality that needed a separate identity to live? (I would wager nearly all people feel as if they have contradictory aspects of their personalities!).

Was he switching between two personalities, or sets of characteristics? or is he referring solely to calling himself a different name and 'presenting' in a more feminine way? Basically, what changed and what was the point? (I don't mean that in any kind of mocking way!)

TinselAngel · 24/05/2020 20:24

Everybody hates a tourist, especially one who thinks it's all such a laugh...

RumbaswithPumbaas · 24/05/2020 20:46

Nice quote... I loved pulp back in the day tinsel!

TinselAngel · 24/05/2020 22:01

Me too!

Rocaille · 24/05/2020 23:13

I really like his comedy.

This is his 'trans counselling' set:

Gingerkittykat · 25/05/2020 04:02

When he was performing as Sarah did he feel entitled to use female only spaces?

DrDavidBanner · 25/05/2020 09:15

I love that song Tinsel Angel, seems when more relevant now that it did back then.

Staffori · 26/05/2020 00:21

It's a fascinating article even though I find him arrogant beyond belief. The worst kind of transgender AFAIC. Glad he came to his senses.

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