Good News

[AlwaysTawnyOwl]

Here’s a letter from Liz Truss to Baroness Nicholson received today

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Good news indeed. Thanks for posting

Oooooh! Low tide?

Is that on Twitter yet?

That's definitely good news.

What will be interesting is when women get to see exactly what Liz Truss is going to do with the GRA.

Despite good intentions, I can't help be aware that a lot of times the implications of certain rules/laws don't necessarily always occur to the people formulating them.

Hopefully women's groups will see the draft, to get a sense of possible pitfalls.

And yes, wording is vital. Ability and requirement are two completely different concepts, as Twitter has already pointed out.

Jamie

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This is great news.

Thanks, Datun, just catching up now.

Promising but as always the detail matters. Ability isn't requirement as others are saying. I'm concerned they will pull back from making single sex provision compulsory. If it's discretionary then that's really the status quo - no single sex provision in changing rooms, Centre Parcs, M & S etc etc . Women's refuges. Surely if there's a case for single sex it has to be compulsory in those circumstances.

Yeah, now confirm who is meant by 'women and girls' please.

Weird tweet from a man now at the end of the Twitter thingy. Like he has totally misunderstood or wants transwomen in female spaces cos ... boys need safeguarding too?

Perplexed !!

Sounds promising. I really hope that we can get the madness of centering men in every public and private space ended. Women and girls deserve to be protected. I would wholeheartedly support a third space for those suffering gender dysphoria or, alternatively, male facilities could be adapted or men taught to 'budge up' and 'be kind'.

The elephant in the room, is the male bodied adult who holds a GRC so is legally a woman.
We need to stop issuing GRCs.

Agreed. No more GRCs. It really shouldn't be hard to prove why they are no longer necessary.

Sounds promising, but it's best to wait until the government response to the consultation is published so we can see exactly how they intend to uphold women's right to single sex spaces.

If males are allowed access via a GRC, it makes single sex exemptions pointless. And unless the law is enforced properly and doesn't leave single sex spaces up to the 'discretion' of providers, then I doubt we will see any sensible reversals of policies in different areas.

I think the GRA was madness from the get-go.

Yes, the GRA is nonsensical, at least now that same sex marriage is legal and the retirement ages between men and women have equalised.

It is difficult and slow to get legislation repealed, hence why it is important to not allow gender identity to entrench itself into existing or new legislation.

Hopefully one day, feminists will be able to put together a legal team that can make a case before the European Court of Human Rights that the GRA directly conflicts with women's sex based rights in the Equality Act. The two are fundamentally incompatible if males are allowed to change their birth certificate to female via a GRC. If and when we win that case, then i can see the GRA being repealed or amended to stop GRCs from being issued in future.

The letter seems unequivocal to me - none of your usual flim-flam about understanding concerns, looking at both sides of the argument, must protect trans people blah blah.

I think Liz Truss is on our side. That can only be a good thing.

Looks good. Now can we scrap the GRA?

I hope it's good news but note the lack of definition of women and girls with trepidation. It'd be easier if I felt I could trust politicians (from any party)

Happy - personally I think that a GRC should no longer allow a birth certificate in the ‘new’ sex. Mixing up sex and gender in this way is the heart of the problem. I think that for someone who has gone through a meaningful transition, who has gender dysphoria etc and lives permanently as though they were a member of the opposite sex then a GRC without a new BC could be appropriate to prevent job discrimination etc. But it’s clear that your sex hasn’t changed.

This is very good news.

I'm about to write to my local health Trust re their trans guidance infringing rights to single-sex spaces. I wonder if there's a way I can reference this letter.

So what happens to people with a GRC + new Birth Certificate if the GRA gets repealed in the future?

Agreed. No more GRCs. It really shouldn't be hard to prove why they are no longer necessary.

Yes. Repeal this ill thought out, badly drafted, obsolete law.

It is pretty weird looking back that less than 20 years ago people were so opposed to same-sex marriage that instead they were prepared to pretend that man were women.