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Anyone fancy picking this apart, in terms of govt support for women .

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Angryresister · 06/05/2020 10:45

Received this in response to my enquiry to the home office. I think it needs a careful analysis in terms of actual benefits etc, plus what is being allocated from eg national lottery funds to groups supporting women to exit. Anyone like to have a try?
Thank you for your email of 7 April about support to vulnerable women during the Covid-19 pandemic crisis, including those involved in prostitution. Your email has been passed to officials for a response.
Firstly, I would like to assure you that the Government is committed to tackling the harm and exploitation that can be associated with prostitution and we believe that people who want to leave prostitution should be given every opportunity to find routes out. We are also committed to protecting those selling sex from harm and enabling the police to target those who exploit vulnerable people involved in prostitution. We continue to work closely with the police, Crown Prosecution Service (CPS), other front-line agencies and wider partners to ensure the legislation achieves these aims.
Regardless of the legal position of prostitution in the UK, the law on rape and sexual assault is clear and unequivocal. We expect every report of sexual violence and rape to be treated seriously from the time it is reported, every victim to be treated with dignity, and every investigation and prosecution to be conducted thoroughly and professionally.
In October 2019 we published research we commissioned from the University of Bristol on the current nature and prevalence of sex work and prostitution in England and Wales. The research highlights the enormous complexity of sex work and prostitution today, and we will incorporate this new evidence into our wider work.
We would like to assure you that the Government is committed to supporting vulnerable women, including those involved in prostitution or those who are particularly at risk of sexual violence and exploitation during the Covid-19 crisis.
The Government is working closely with providers of sexual violence support services to ensure that the needs of victims of sexual violence and exploitation are fully considered in its response to Covid-19. We are also carefully considering the longer-term impact of Covid-19 on victims of sexual violence and their support needs once lockdown has ended.
We understand that those who are vulnerable and involved in selling sex or engaging in ‘survival sex’ can face a number of challenges that affect their ability to access services, particularly during this time. The Government has published guidance on accessing services such as those for mental health, housing, drugs and alcohol, domestic abuse and sexual violence. Existing specialist support services will continue to be available to those seeking help.
The Government is providing support to those who are self-employed and have lost income due to Covid-19. Those affected may be eligible to claim a grant though the Covid- 19 Self-employment Income Support Scheme. In addition, as part of the Government’s strategy to support people affected by Covid-19, we have made changes to ensure people who need financial help have access to the benefit system. We have temporarily relaxed the application of the Minimum Income Floor for all self-employed Universal Credit claimants affected by the impact of Covid-19, for the duration of the outbreak.
The Government has also pledged a package of grant funds worth £750 million, which will be provided to support charities at risk of financial hardship that are providing key frontline services to vulnerable people affected by the pandemic. The funding is being handled by the National Lottery Community Fund as well as individual Government departments and will be open to applications.
Thank you for writing on this important issue.

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SarahTancredi · 06/05/2020 10:50

I'm not good at analysing letters/emails like that really.

But what I am wondering having read it is how they can say any of it given what we know.

We know that rape convictions are ridiculously low

We know that police feel even with children that it's a " lifestyle choice " and dont do anything.

Amd if course any that end up in a shelter or something cannot be garunteed a male free space.

Guess I'm.saying it's just words really

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 06/05/2020 10:51

That was my initial take too, Sarah. They take all rape cases seriously and the government is committed to ensuring that that happens? Really? Because the numbers rather strongly suggest otherwise.

SarahTancredi · 06/05/2020 10:59

A few months back on my local news site there was a report about how amongst other things domestic violence and rape reports, well something like I think 12 percent of cases werent even recorded properly. So that's 1 in ten cases fucked before it's even gone anywhere .

And It doesnt get any better after that does it

SarahTancredi · 06/05/2020 10:59

That was for my regions police force

Angryresister · 06/05/2020 12:02

Yes, particularly the number of actual prosecutions and convictions in rape cases . It’s hard to believe they are taking any of it seriously really, how is the lottery funding going these days for women only organisations?

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SarahTancredi · 06/05/2020 12:08

What women only organisations Sad

There arent any left are there?

Given the big lottery fund went ahead with their grant to a certain " charity" despite all information emailed from many on these boards ( myself included ) I think we know where they stand

stumbledin · 06/05/2020 13:56

All they are saying is that they are very good at saying the right thing and then passing on what could / should / ought to be done to others.

eg their support for charities supporting victims of sexual violence was to release a statement saying there was support and here is a list of the groups that do it.

Theoretically Lottery Money is not part of Government. In fact John Major who set it up said it was specifically not to be used to fill gaps in Government spending. But both Labour and Tories then just co-opted it.

So they can direct Lottery Funders to direct it towards certain sectors, but they dont get themselves caught up in decision making.

Couldn't see any reference to women only service. It is carefully worded to just talk about those involved in prostitution, or are victims of rape. Even though know that it is primarily women they just dont want the bother of the what about men onslaught.

TyroSaysMeow · 06/05/2020 15:22

the Government is committed to supporting vulnerable women

This is the only time they use the word 'woman' in their response.

Everything they're talking about - services, support, guidance, the lot - is tailored for vulnerable people. None of it is woman-specific.

Thelnebriati · 06/05/2020 16:38

They also know full well that they spaffed the Tampon Tax money up the wall for a decade. Originally, it was supposed to go to Rape Crisis and DV refuges.

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