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Afterlife Series Two Episode 6 (Gervais)

61 replies

CelloMellow · 25/04/2020 18:15

Very amusing, anyone else seen it?!

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PurpleGhost · 25/04/2020 19:26

Yes! I almost posted last night after I finished the series but forgot.

I thought it was a good scene and shows that he's done his research if he knows about Stefonknee Wolscht, as I assume it was based on that.

Also the discussion of where have all the transvestites of old gone.

For anyone that wants to see it, it starts are 12:43 mins in.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 25/04/2020 19:29

I'm just watching this. Not at episode 6 yet but am really enjoying it, Very bitter sweet. Smile

crazylady7 · 25/04/2020 20:02

Watched it all a few weeks back.
Found it hilariousGrin

crazylady7 · 25/04/2020 20:03

Yet to see series 2 though. Excited.

StarintheMorning · 25/04/2020 20:16

I watched the series this morning. It is excellent, every bit as good as the first series.

My husband thought the 50 year old plumber as a trans 8 year old was a bit far fetched, cue googling Stephonknee, about which he was incredulous!

WTFSeriously · 25/04/2020 20:43

I've not watched it through yet but saw the clip on twitter (did a thread on it earlier but it died a death...)

I 'identify' with Tracy...

PositiveVibez · 25/04/2020 23:02

Just watched the last one. And now I've finished being a whinge bag, I had to return to this thread to say it was fucking amazing. The whole segment.

But boy is he going to get some shit for it.

I flit between thinking he's a genius and he's bit of a knobhead, but I love him for this.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 25/04/2020 23:58

Also just finished watching it - and weeping.
My adult kids were amazed I liked it but he explores overpowering loss and grief so well. It wasn't always my type of humour - but I reckon he speaks to many people with his understanding of loss. So many great moments, laugh out loud moments and cringe ones. And yes - he'll get grief for that little segment but it covers the issues perfectly!
Something I'll watch again

Davros · 26/04/2020 00:03

I thought that scene was good because the plumber/girl wasn't ridiculed but was basically told that, just because you say you are something doesn't make it true. Also the bit where his wife said I married X and if you are not them any more then I'm not married to you (or something like that)

POP7777777 · 26/04/2020 00:03

Ricky Gervais is incredible! I have a splitting headache from switching from laughing to crying again and again. I'm a mess after seeing it but I loved it!

TheRattleBag · 26/04/2020 00:06

Off topic entirely, but can someone confirm that the dog survives to the end? I was on tenterhooks all the way through series 1!

TinselAngel · 26/04/2020 00:16

I watched it all today and the main thing I'm thrilled about (avoiding spoilers) is the 1980's sitcom actor reunion ❤️

POP7777777 · 26/04/2020 01:02

The dog is on fine form throughout! Fear not!

WTFSeriously · 26/04/2020 02:27

I've watched the whole series tonight & it was brilliant. He's a talented bastard that gervais.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 26/04/2020 07:26

I also worried about that dog. In that scene with the Stefonknee character I liked the way that is was simply presented as a delusion, and not pervy with a charming little discussion with the daughter at the end. Now that was kind.

TheRattleBag · 26/04/2020 11:05

@POP7777777

Thank you! Will watch it now 😍

Aesopfable · 26/04/2020 11:58

trans 8 year old was a bit far fetched

That a grown man wishes to be treated as a child always seems less far fetched to me than the fact that there are people prepared to be ‘parents’ - unless a lot of money is changing hands. Even then...

TheYellowOfTheEgg · 26/04/2020 12:25

I liked that it showed that the wife and daughter weren't delighted with Dennis' behaviour and that it was yet another selfish decision of his (like pretending to have ME). It seems almost compulsory to depict the families as totally supportive in newspapers and on TV. It was also good when Tony said that men dressing up as women "for a laugh" had never been funny.

I also liked the bit in the pub when the supposedly "nice guy" brother-in-law felt that he had the right to insert himself into the conversation between the two women. Tony told him not to and that the women had just come in to talk to each other. I hate the assumption men have that women out in public are "fair game" and should be delighted with men pushing in.

I thought the therapist wasn't realistic. In the first series he was OK, but it went right over the top in this series and I don't understand why Matt kept paying to listen to that awful rubbish. Surely the therapist and his dreadful friends would also be kicked out of a pub for behaving like that.

I watched the whole series last night and I really liked it apart from the therapist and his friends.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 26/04/2020 12:35

Agreed TheYellowOfTheEgg. The therapist role seemed almost self indulgently awful - I found I zoned out in the scenes involving him.
But I did enjoy it and like a lot of Netflix series - I'm sorry it's ended - I could have watched more.

WTFSeriously · 26/04/2020 12:50

trans 8 year old was a bit far fetched

The depiction was far gentler & far less sinister than the actual bloke in the US who does identify as a small girl. It was quite a sympathetic view of someone with issues who still had people around him who still loved him, while clearly exasperated with his behaviour & weren't the abusive bullies most families are depicted as when they fail to fully affirm this sort of thing.

Gervais has been paying v close attention to this & while he's occasionally posted comments, he's got the measure of this spot on. He made the man claiming trans ID sympathetic, not the rabid TRA plenty have come across. He wasn't mocking him he was ridiculing the idea a grow 50 yr old man could identify as an 8 yr old girl & expect everyone to take him seriously/affirm this unquestioningly.

He really is an excellent writer.

Davros · 26/04/2020 15:21

I've been thinking about the therapist and I wonder if his function is to show that some men think and talk like this, especially when they're with other men, but there are lots of men who don't like this attitude and behaviour. Only theory I can come up with!

middleager · 27/04/2020 00:24

Brilliant two fingers up to to gender ideology nonsense.

HandsOffMyRights · 27/04/2020 08:35

I watched that whole scene with the plumber wearing a dress and wig and said "yes!" out loud.

Ricky nailed it. The whole scene was spot on.

Oh and yes to the 1980s sitcom reunion too.

I was wondering if the whole Paul Kaye, Ratty and 'The Nonce' was a dig at the Jordan Peterson followers.

TheSkyWasDark · 27/04/2020 08:43

"That a grown man wishes to be treated as a child always seems less far fetched to me than the fact that there are people prepared to be ‘parents’ - unless a lot of money is changing hands. Even then..."

Those kinds of people are porn addicts. They watch more and more extreme porn until they can't get off to anything resembling a normal sex life anymore.

It's fucked up. And becoming more prevalent all the time.

motorcyclenumptiness · 27/04/2020 09:26

The psychiatrist is uncomfortable viewing but I don't think it's gratuitous. In comedy psychiatrists are always more broken than their patients. The humour around a doctor who freely disseminates his disturbing views is particularly dark. RG likes poking fun at authority figures and PK does 'creepy doctor' v well.