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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Vancouver Rape Relief hate continues on medium

55 replies

Winesalot · 13/04/2020 10:30

Sadly, this level of hatred doesn’t abate during a global pandemic. It just gives people more time to spread lies about Nazi’s supporting VRR and a supersized whopper that Oger is a hero.

I will copy the text in another comment but here is the archived version. Medium have taken down the live version and I am not surprised if you look at the call to action.

archive.is/KC1qP

Another truth... what you publish lives long on the internet even if the original source is deleted.

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PurpleCrowbarWhereIsLangCleg · 13/04/2020 13:45

Apart from anything else, that's a truly terrible piece of writing!

Piling up emotive adjectives does not an argument make.

I've already got a SO for VRR. I'm not a Nazi or a right wing American last time I checked...

DaydreamingDay · 13/04/2020 14:04

I donate every month as well and will for the rest of my life. It's staggering that people this evil exist, that they would see brutalised women forced to surrender their safety and well being just so that women hating men get their kicks.

TreestumpsAndTrampolines · 13/04/2020 14:29

Jesus Christ that is unhinged!

I've donated before, but I'm going to set up a monthly donation now - whilst I don't live in Vancouver, I have family connections there (who god willing will never need their services - but I'd like them to be available)

happydappy2 · 13/04/2020 14:50

whoever wrote that pile of rubbish is delusional. Its not hatred to have a single sex space for women to feel safe and recover, when healing from male violence.

As for calling male bodied individuals women-its just nonsense. They are transwomen and there's a clear difference.

NotTerfNorCis · 13/04/2020 14:54

If Oger had a genuine case, Oger wouldn't have to pretend that women running a rape relief centre are neo-Nazis.

Joliany · 13/04/2020 15:01

Well a glimpse into their tactics means that we need to step up and make sure these idiots don't get into a position of power. I for certain wouldn't be employing fools like that.

MoleSmokes · 13/04/2020 15:10

Interesting to note another campaign being touted by that person.

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"It’s time to stop tolerating a system rife with corruption, racial bias, and abuse. Why should we allow myths about “public safety,” fearing our neighbors, and fictional boogiemen to dominate discourse? Why should an institution beloved by bigots and championed by the alt-right be allowed to persist? We need to abolish one of the most loathsome tools of mass incarceration: | | | ."

" | | | is just one more outrageous component of how America demonizes the defenseless."

"Propaganda from pop culture reinforce lies about the people on | | | , sowing fear and spreading objectification. It serves as a tool to oppress our communities and weaken our collective voices in the face of injustice by normalizing the idea of a second-class citizenry."

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Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 13/04/2020 15:25

Astounding, a shocking insight into the mind of a virulently misogynistic trans activist. Shining a bright light onto the vile tactics the worst of them use to further their hateful war on women.

Does the person who wrote that "article" live in the same region of Canada as Yaniv and Ogre? Are there environmental and social conditions that combine to cause these women haters of British Colombia to flaunt their deranged ideas so publicly?

In a nauseating way they are doing women a favour, because nobody can follow them on social media without becoming aware of the depth of their hatred and envy of women, or how dedicated they are to destroying any last place where women are able to gather without being subject to their control.

Now might be a good time to remember the advice given to those wishing to speed up the transitioning of children www.lawgazette.co.uk/law/campaigners-for-gender-recognition-law-should-avoid-media/5102234.article. Seems like the author of the medium piece was following those recommendations, but slipped up badly by forgetting the all important warning to do all this behind the scenes, never making it public and avoiding media attention.

Anyhow it's an ill wind that blows no word vomit back down the throats of toxic ranters good. I've just joined all the other people happily donating to VRR again in their honour.

MoleSmokes · 13/04/2020 15:49

I think residence is probably USA from references in this article:

archive.vn/pzxSz

Thinking of a headline . . . .

"Transgender woman campaigns to abolish sex offenders register and to destroy women's rape crisis centre unless it takes in transwomen"

Hoping someone like www.womenarehuman.com might be able to fill in any backstory that would explain such apparently unconnected interests . . .

OneEpisode · 13/04/2020 15:58

The first option, that of democratic change is dismissed by the author in favour of the harassment options because “30 or more reliable cis women allies” isn’t likely. I wonder what “reliable” means? Could it mean “Not likely to have empathy with women” once they meet them?

MrsDoylesTeaBags · 13/04/2020 16:33

Well that's very interesting MoleSmokes what I fascinating person. It would be good to know more about them.

Like I said the more sunlight the better, this person likes to share their views let's get them out there.

Kantastic · 13/04/2020 16:43

The first option, that of democratic change is dismissed by the author in favour of the harassment options because “30 or more reliable cis women allies” isn’t likely. I wonder what “reliable” means?

Prayer circle for Laura, having to live in the same world as all those disloyal unreliable cis women.

But since cis women are so awful and unreliable, why can't trans women do the infiltration and takeover of Vancouver Rape Relief? Do the VRR TERFs have X-ray vision to peek into your underwear and see what kind of genitals you have got? I do not believe they do! Do they have a karyotype testing lab onsite? I somehow doubt it! Silly Laura! How would the TERFs be able to tell?

FloralBunting · 13/04/2020 16:46

It serves as a tool to oppress our communities and weaken our collective voices in the face of injustice by normalizing the idea of a second-class citizenry.

Who would view the sex offenders register like this except someone was on it and pissed off that they didn't have the access to things they formerly had? If you felt you were on it unjustly, that would be a very specific situation, but why would you view it from the point of view of your 'community' unless your community was the group of people on the sex offenders register?

Going out on a limb, that's not a community I give any shits about. And this person, who seems to be coming from the position of defending the 'sex offender community', is writing gibbering hate filled diatribes against women running a rape crisis centre?

Yeah. I don't need a degree to work out what may well be behind that.Angry

Pertella · 13/04/2020 16:50

Have any of the prefects who like to admonish FWR for being awful anything to say about this?

No..?

Of course not, what was I thinking Hmm

SunsetBeetch · 13/04/2020 17:25

"The author of the piece sounds seriously messed up. t.co/LlqAXbNUEl "

twitter.com/underhandrea/status/1249628773387042816?s=19

(Click link for more info.)

SophocIestheFox · 13/04/2020 17:44

I just can’t imagine that breathless screed convincing me to support any cause it was advocating for. Fact free and overblown, lots of accusations and over wrought language, constant repetition of slurs. Even if i agreed with the premise (and I don’t for a second - VRR are heroes) I’d back away from supporting the cause if it was written about like this.

JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 13/04/2020 17:50

Holy shit. Some of the comments from the author on that link.
The second quote on the FB screenshot about having a kink about requiring people to be sexually submissive as some kind of revenge...
Guess it's obvious why they have issues with a rape relief centre. WTAF.

Kantastic · 13/04/2020 20:09

"Cisgender."

I'm sure you are, dear. You know what you should do? You should try infiltrating Vancouver Rape Relief like you wanted "cis women" to do! Weird how you worded that part like you see cis women as other, somehow.

Or are you "cisgender" in the clownfish-continuum, all words are social constructs therefore no words mean anything, who can say if any of this is real and we're all in the Matrix? sense of the word?

Kantastic · 13/04/2020 20:38

Actually is anyone else speculating if Cisgender Laura is the alter ego of the Canadian fairytale villain/politician/transwoman that Laura expresses such admiration for?

GinnyLane · 13/04/2020 21:07

From the author's bio: Any means a woman wants to use to express herself is a good thing.

Unless she expresses herself by saying, "No", Laura?

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 13/04/2020 21:19

I didn't want to give that twit the clicks on medium but having read it here, the author sounds like they have been on a 3 day bender and vomited that hate screed up at the end of it.

I didn't think it was possible to hate women that much, that publicly, that violently but along comes Oger to prove me wrong.

That their mask has slipped so drastically is bizarre. But at least everyone can see the real wolf now.

Winesalot · 13/04/2020 21:47

the author sounds like they have been on a 3 day bender

It has a certain surrealism. If someone wrote this about gender critical people targeting taking ‘over’ a transgender service, there would be very loud concern. As there very rightly should be.

It is the tactics of take overs and doxing that make this so threatening. It is like reading the activism tactic playlist of James Morton (If I remember correctly). Strange isn’t it that agenda of guerilla activism is their aim.

That bullying organizations into re-educated submission is considered true success. That if VRR submitted, the centre would be lauded and love bombed like the errant (and abused) child who came back into the family circle (after being beaten into submission first ).

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Gingerkittykat · 13/04/2020 22:04

VRR’s goal is to take these vulnerable women and brainwash them with anti-trans propaganda and convince them to become fear-mongering TERF’s.

Yup, the rape counselling and support is just a massive front for an alt-right, fascist nazi TERF mill. They have already said they support 1200 women, but taking away support services in the name of ideology is fine.

It is rabis rants like that which make me understand how the shelter end up with dead rats nailed to their door. Whoever wrote that is a scary individula.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 13/04/2020 22:37

I hope the Vancouver police have been informed of this? Those are clear threats to named individuals.