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Andrew Moffatt No Outsiders online lessons

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GRAConcerns · 23/03/2020 13:00

NC but regular FWR poster.

So, as the nation's children are at home, Andrew Moffatt is going to be creating videos of his 'No Outsiders' books and assemblies for them to watch.

This is being promoted by schools already and I'm concerned parents will have no idea about the harm this material promotes in relation to girls and gender ideology.

If you work in schools please keep a close eye on this.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 12:45

I looked on google books and reached my limit in the preface.

He's listed sex as a characteristic. He's also gone to Ofsted. Who are as much use as a chocolate teapot on the T issue.

Andrew Moffatt No Outsiders online lessons
NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 12:59

I've recently done the online prevent training and can see how this book would be used as a part of a school's evidence that they're on board with that.

Afaik, the prevent training can be accessed and completed by anyone?

MoleSmokes · 14/04/2020 13:12

NeurotrashWarrior - Yes - Moffat's "No Outsiders" originated from a research project at Sunderland University.

I saw a conversation Renée DePalma, who was the Senior Researcher with the original "No Outsiders" project, can't remember if it was on Mumsnet or Twitter.

She did not know how the ESRC-funded project, led by herself and Elizabeth Atkinson, and the materials produced as part of the project had morphed into "Andrew Moffat's No Outsiders". He was involved with the original project but did not have a leading role.

The original website for the project - this link is dead - was nooutsiders.sunderland.ac.uk

"Select Committee on Education and Skills Written Evidence" October 2006

Memorandum submitted by the General Teaching Council (GTC)

SUMMARY

In spring 2006, researchers from the University of Sunderland worked in partnership with the GTC to explore the issue of homophobia in schools. The following key themes were identified:

(a) The invisibility of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender parents, despite the likelihood of their presence in the community, and despite the impact of the Civil Partnership Act.

(b) The emotional energy expended by lesbian and gay teachers in concealing their sexual orientation through fear of adverse reactions, and the concomitant effects on their wellbeing and teaching.

(c) The lack of representation, for children in families with same-sex parents (or other relatives) of their everyday life experiences within and beyond the school curriculum.

(d) The tendency of teachers (whether heterosexual or non-heterosexual) to take a reactive rather than a proactive approach to addressing sexualities equality, where it is addressed at all.

(e) The underestimation by teachers of the significance of homophobic bullying in primary schools.

INTRODUCTION

  1. The General Teaching Council for England (GTC) is the independent professional body for the teaching profession. Its main duties are to regulate the teaching profession and to advise the Secretary of State on a range of issues that concern teaching and learning. The Council acts in the public interest to contribute to raising the standards of teaching and learning.

  2. This memorandum provides evidence on one particular aspect of the Select Committee's inquiry—the issue of homophobia in schools. This evidence is taken from work that researchers from the University of Sunderland carried out in partnership with the GTC, exploring the issue of homophobia in primary schools. The Council supports Stonewall and its partners to highlight and challenge homophobic bullying in schools, which can blight the lives of teachers and pupils.

EVIDENCE OF HOMOPHOBIA IN SCHOOLS

  1. The urgency of addressing this issue is demonstrated by evidence—examined by Elizabeth Atkinson and Renee DePalma of the University of Sunderland—showing the continued prevalence of homophobia in schools, [1]and evidence that heteronormativity (the normalisation of heterosexuality to the exclusion of any other identities) is maintained in schools through both active and passive means. [2]

  2. School homophobia has been recognised and addressed in a range of international contexts. In the US, the National Mental Health Association asserts that while four out of five young LGBT people surveyed could not identify a single supportive adult in their schools, those that did identify adult support tended to report that they felt a sense of belonging in the school. [3]

  3. An Australian study linked the heteronormative environment in schools with depression, self-harm, and dropping out for LGBT pupils. [4]Research in Canada found that 40% of homeless youth identify as gay, lesbian, or bisexual, and that the vast majority of those interviewed remembered their school experience in strongly negative terms. [5]

  4. Research in Sweden suggests that violence against perceived homosexuals is enacted as a means of gender construction and is simultaneously a developmental, communicative, and social act. [6]This implies that reducing homophobic violence is more likely to occur through systemic social change than through simply preventing or reducing particular acts of violence. Such a change requires an interrogation of the assumptions underpinning heteronormativity, not only in terms of what is said and done, but also in terms of what is left out of the official discourse.

CHALLENGING HOMOPHOBIA: DOES EVERY CHILD MATTER?

  1. The GTC web forum Challenging homophobia: Does every child matter? was designed by Elizabeth Atkinson and Rene«e DePalma as part of a broader research project investigating homophobia in primary schools in the UK. The forum was hosted by the GTC for three months, from 30 January until 30 April 2006. As a research project with an equity agenda, the forum had the following goals:

— to learn more about teachers' perspectives and the challenges they face in challenging homophobia in schools;

— to use results from the forum to highlight policy implications for Government;

— to use the results to feed into Atkinson and DePalma's 28-month research project into teachers' best practice in promoting sexuality equality; and

— to contribute to the Education for All campaign led by Stonewall, which aims to challenge homophobia in schools.

  1. The GTC forum was part of a broader research project that began in 2004 and will conclude in 2008. Along with the results from the other phases of the research, the results from the forum research will help inform the next phase of the research project, a university-teacher collaborative action research project (see para 22).

Continued at:
publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200607/cmselect/cmeduski/85/85we04.htm

ESRC Funded Research

The ESRC site is down at the moment but this is where there should be more info about the original "No Outsiders" project:

www.researchcatalogue.esrc.ac.uk/grants/RES-062-23-0095/read/outputs/author

Hemingway, J. (2008). Speaking the unspeakable in forbidden places: addressing lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender equality in the primary school. Sex Education: Sexuality, Society and Learning. 8(3): 315-328

core.ac.uk/download/pdf/82422.pdf

BOOK

"Interrogating Heteronormativity in Primary Schools: The Work of the No Outsiders Project" 2009, eds Renee DePalma and Elizabeth Atkinson

"is a book that reflects on a research project based in primary schools and funded by The Economic and Social Research Council of the UK. This text is accompanied by another practice-focused work: "Undoing Homophobia in Primary Schools". The project was led by Elizabeth Atkinson and Renee DePalma in collaboration with researchers at the University of Exeter and the Institute of Education (University of London) and school and community based educators. Together, the team developed strategies and resources to address lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender equality in their primary education settings. An overarching aim of the project, according to an associated website (www.nooutsiders.sunderland.ac.uk), is "to create school environments and communities where no-one is marginalized because of their sexual orientation or gender expression."

(Moffat co-authored one of the nine chapters with Elziabeth Atkinson)

Download book "Interrogating Heteronormativity in Primary Schools: The No Outsiders Project":

www.academia.edu/1029463/Interrogating_Heteronormativity_in_Primary_Schools_The_No_Outsiders_Project

ARTICLE

‘No Outsiders’: moving beyond adiscourse of tolerance to challenge heteronormativity in primary schools Rene´e DePalma and Elizabeth Atkinson, British Educational Research Journal Vol. 35, No. 6, December 2009, pp. 837–855

Download article or read online

www.academia.edu/1029656/_No_Outsiders_Moving_beyond_a_Discourse_of_Tolerance_to_Challenge_Heteronormativity_in_Primary_Schools

Renée DePalma

Publications and research:

coruna.academia.edu/RenéeDePalma/

Elizabeth Atkinson

www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/82508236_Elizabeth_Atkinson

Judy Hemingway

www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/2021918413_Judy_Hemingway

R0wantrees · 14/04/2020 13:14

Now Moffat is enjoying his new role at the Excelsior trust, and already this year has visited 12 schools to train them and delivered 16 conference speeches and workshops, plus teacher training at universities.

If Andrew Moffat is still innacurately referring to gender/gender identity rather than sex within the context of Equality Act 2010 legislation (protected characteristics) this could prove to be a serious issue for The Excelsior Trust.

MoleSmokes · 14/04/2020 13:14

Andrew Moffatt - TES Profile March 2019

www.tes.com/news/i-remember-being-outsider-teacher-centre-lgbt-row

'I remember being an outsider' - the teacher at the centre of LGBT row
Tes profiles Andrew Moffat, the No Outsiders teacher shortlisted for the $1m Global Teacher Prize

It could almost be a script from a Hollywood movie. In the space of a week, Andrew Moffat went from enduring bitter protests outside his school gates calling for his sacking to being feted in front of royalty as one of the world's best teachers.

The assistant head of Parkfield Community School in Birmingham has been under the national and international spotlight for weeks. Abroad, he has been honoured as a finalist of the $1 million Global Teacher Prize. But at home, he is at the eye of a storm about what community cohesion and conflicting values mean in modern Britain.

There are serious issues at play in the controversy surrounding the No Outsiders lessons he devised and it can be easy to forget that there is an individual human being – a teacher in a local primary school – caught up in something that has become so much bigger than him.

So, how has he coped?

'No Outsiders is community cohesion'

Moffat was made an MBE for services to equality and diversity in education in 2017 for his development of the No Outsiders programme. He designed the course in 2014 to cover a child’s seven years in primary school, and it has since been adopted by schools around the country.

The aim is to help pupils understand and accept the diversity of people in modern Britain.

As Moffat explains it, “No Outsiders is community cohesion. It’s about different people in the UK today, it’s about Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Sikh, black, white, brown-skinned, disabled, gay and lesbian, different families.”

It has become controversial in recent weeks because of the "different families" LGBT element, and some Muslim parents have held demonstrations outside his school calling for the lessons to be scrapped.

The school has now suspended the programme pending discussions with parents – a move Moffat supports – but he stresses that No Outsiders is not about “LGBT lessons”, and only four of the 35 lessons have an LGBT focus.

And No Outsiders does not, Moffat also stresses, have anything to do with sex education.

“If you ask any four-year-old in our school ‘What’s No Outsiders about’, I know they will all say the same thing: 'We all play together. No-one’s left out.'”

'I used to live on Smash Hits'

The origins of No Outsiders are deeply personal.

Although Moffat did not know he was gay when he was at primary school, he says he was “always different to the other boys”. The separate boys’ and girls’ playgrounds at his middle school was “horrific for me”.

“The whole No Outsiders thing does come from that. We are all products of our youth, and I remember being an outsider, especially in that boys’ playground.

“I have really hard memories of being on my own, literally by the wall, because I couldn’t relate to any boys. There were very few boys who were prepared to come and talk to the ‘poof’, which is what it became quite quickly.”

Many of his reference points came from pop culture – “I used to live on Smash Hits” – with figures like Boy George, Marc Almond and Frankie Goes to Hollywood prominent, although Bronski Beat and Jimmy Somerville were “the closest to what I thought maybe a gay person was”.

One memory, in particular, is seared into his mind.

In the 1980s, gay people were rarely seen on TV, so he was desperate to watch a Channel 4 documentary about lesbians.^

“I can remember the first scene. It was a lesbian family sitting having a picnic in a park, and I can remember it clearly, mum saying, ‘Oh, what’s this.’ I said, ‘I thought we’d watch it,’ and my mum said: ‘Oh, I don’t mind gay people, but I don’t want to see them.’”

He is quick to emphasise that “that was what everyone thought”, and says his mother no longer takes the same view.

But he adds: “That was a huge thing for me, because I thought ‘OK, I can’t come out, my family won’t accept me’.

“I didn’t come out to my family until I was 27.”

He had girlfriends. “But I always knew this was a lie. And for me, I don’t want any child to go through that, because I lied to my family, my friends, I lied to all my loved ones, and I knew I was lying – and to those girls I was going out with, some of them for a couple of years.

“This whole thing about hiding yourself – I don’t want any child to have to hide who they are.”

Learning from his mistakes

The seeds of today’s No Outsiders programme lie in a project run by the University of Sunderland between 2006 and 2008, which researched how to talk about sexualities in primary school, and which Moffat was a part of.

He wrote a resource called Challenging Homophobia in School Using Picture Books and used it in his school in Coventry and for “little bits of training here and there”.

He wanted to work out how to do similar work in a more diverse area, so he went to a school in Newton, Birmingham.

He is frank about the mistakes he made there.

“It’s a lesson to be learned, because I didn’t get governor approval, I didn’t get parental engagement, and it wasn’t whole school – I just did it myself, with a couple of cool friends in Year 5 and 6, who dropped lessons in here and there.”

A letter of complaint arrived from a Christian parent and soon, the concern spread to Muslim families. His headteacher endured a public meeting she described as her worst in 30 years of headship.

He told her he would leave and found another job. When the press got wind of it, the story became “gay teacher resigns after Muslim protest”.

His new school was Parkfield.

“I wanted to go to a school where I thought I might meet the same challenges, so I wanted to go to a school where I knew it was mainly Muslim parents, because I wanted to work with the parents this time and I wanted to work out how you can teach equality lessons about everybody.”

He scrapped Challenging Homophobia, widened the programme to cover all equalities, and held 11 meetings with parents before rolling out No Outsiders.

“We’ve had four years of No Outsiders working superbly without a whisper of complaint. Literally not a whisper.

“In that time, we have had 29 parent workshops where we had parents coming in to show a No Outsiders lesson and to learn together, and that’s how we’ve moved forward.”

'There's nothing to do with sex education'

After all that time, why the controversy now? Moffat is clear: “I think it was hijacked, actually.”

He cites the timing of the government’s plans, finally approved this week, to update relationships and sex education for the first time in almost two decades.

“Someone made the link very early on in December from No Outsiders to sex education, and it’s not sex education. We have always been very clear on that.

“There’s nothing to do with sex in No Outsiders. There’s nothing about bedrooms, there’s nothing about how babies are made.”

'I want to be the teacher they can talk to'

Moffat didn't grow up wanting to teach, but knew he wanted to work with children.

He only lasted nine weeks in a job in children’s home – “It was just dreadful, and I thought oh my God, I can’t do this” – before becoming a youth worker.

“A lot of those young people had been excluded from school, or had bad experiences in school, and I thought that if I was a teacher, I could work with them earlier on to maybe stop that.

“I thought if I can work in primary and inspire them, and really try to work out what’s failing for them in school – I want to be the teacher they can talk to and make a difference.”

'Everyone's welcome in our class'

Amid all the controversy, what are the No Outsiders lessons themselves actually like?

At the Global Education and Skills Forum in Dubai last weekend, where the Global Teacher Prize final took place, Moffat gave a demonstration lesson.

It was engaging, with Moffat skilfully making use a picture of a piece of racist graffiti to encourage pupils to discuss the issue of diversity and acceptance. In another activity, members of the class were given the task of learning something new from one of their peers.

In a talk summing up the lesson, Moffat said we have to “teach children to love diversity” to counter the voices they might hear that are anti-diversity.

“What makes our class great is that we can have different hair, different skin, freckles, blue eyes, brown eyes, different religions, we can wear headscarves, we can have different languages, different families. Everyone’s welcome in our class, and that’s what makes our class a brilliant class to be in. We all belong,” he concluded.

Children were chanting 'Get Mr Moffat out'

So what, then, has it been like to be at the heart of a controversy that has seen questions raised in Parliament, debates on TV, and reports that the protests could spread across a series of cities?

Although Moffat displays the poker face he says he developed as a youth worker, it is clear it has had an effect on him.

Of some of his pupils joining the demonstrations, he says: “It’s very hurtful. I think the worst part for me was when adults who weren’t actually parents were getting children to chant 'Get Mr Moffat out.' Now that was awful.”

The school has paid for him to have counselling.

But he also sees the positives, welcoming the debate it has sparked, and even the children protesting: “I mean, you know, it’s hard at the same time – I wish they were protesting about something else – but it’s a democracy. It’s a great lesson for them, and we’ve just got to as a school manage it now.”

'My goodness, I'm going back full of confidence'

What’s next?

He says he has “had times when I’ve thought ‘I can’t go on, it’s too difficult’” and wondered if he should leave Parkfield.

But the Global Education and Skills Forum came at exactly the right time for him.

“One person who’s a headteacher said to me: ‘You don’t know the impact you’re having on education in Britain today.’ Some things really get you in the heart.

“My goodness, I’m going back full of confidence.”

At the Global Teacher Prize ceremony itself, which saw Kenyan nominee Peter Tabichi emerge victorious, Hollywood star Hugh Jackman praised Moffat in front of dignitaries and world leaders including Prince Edward.

After praising Moffat's sartorial elegance, the X-Men and Greatest Showman actor told him: “You teach kids to be proud of where they come from, at the same time to be tolerant and to be accepting of people who may look different, may believe in different things and who may come from different places.”

With Moffat determined to continue his mission in the face of opponents, we must wait to see whether this story will have the perfect Hollywood ending.

CV – Andrew Moffat

Education

1976-1980: Boldmere Infants School, Sutton Coldfield

1980-1984: Boldmere Junior School, Sutton Coldfield

1984-1988: John Willmott Secondary School, Sutton Coldfield

1988-1990: Josiah Mason sixth-form college, Birmingham

1990-1993: University of Derby (BA Hons English with drama/ American Studies)

1995-1996: University of Derby (PGCE)

2000-2003: University of Birmingham (MA emotional and behavioural difficulties)

2017-present: University of Birmingham (PhD, role of schools in reducing potential for radicalisation)

Employment

1993-1997: Detached youth worker, Derby City Council

1996-1997: Class teacher, Ashbrook Infants School, Derby

1997-2000: Teacher in behaviour resource base, Thornton Junior School, Ward End, Birmingham

2001-2009: Nurture group teacher, Limbrick Wood Primary School, Tile Hill, Coventry

2004-2009: Advanced skills teacher, behaviour management and inclusion, Coventry City Council

2007-2009: Healthy schools advisor, Emotional health and well being (one day per week) Coventry City Council

2009-2014: Assistant headteacher / manager of behaviour resource base Chilwell Croft Academy, Newtown, Birmingham

2014-present: Assistant headteacher/ pastoral care, Parkfield Community School, Saltley, Birmingham

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(Might just be me but I did not get the impression that people were concerned about NO in Birmingham Schools because of a mistaken belief that it was about "sex education" and "where babies come from".

The original "No Outsiders" project gets a mention but, oddly, is missing from Moffat's CV.

No mention either of the aim of Moffat's "No Outsiders" Charity being to prevent terrorism and recruitment to far right organisations.)

For balance, a reminder of Shelley Charlesworth's Review of the No Outsiders programme and materials on the Transgender Trend website:

No Outsiders : Queering the Primary Classroom

www.transgendertrend.com/no-outsiders-queering-primary-classroom/

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 13:48

Thank you Moles, excellent links.

Somewhere I have the article where it seems to morph into AM's work. I'll try to find it.

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 14:06

Comparing the images I have of the preface to the first book to the latest, he's clarified sex and 'gender reassignment' as being the characteristics outlined by the EA rather than confusing gender and sex, sex was previously non existent.

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 14:08

MBE for his development of the No Outsiders programme.

Renee de Palmer et al must be pretty pissed off.

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 14:10

If Andrew Moffat is still innacurately referring to gender/gender identity rather than sex within the context of Equality Act 2010 legislation (protected characteristics) this could prove to be a serious issue for The Excelsior Trust.

In the preface he's careful to use gender reassignment and sex only. Talks about the importance of identities however.

There's a huge emphasis on racism and homophobia and where pupils are gay and from a BAME group in the preface.

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 14:29

On this page he details the key changes and lesson changes in the new book:

Andrew Moffatt No Outsiders online lessons
NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 14:30

"About half the original texts remain"

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 14:41

NO is absolutely being used as part of the prevent strategy in some places.

www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/fight-against-extremism-ramped-up-14415867

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 14:54

I can't find the article where I originally found this link but this details where Jay Steward from Gendered Intelligence worked with a teacher called Katie Salkeld in Newcastle schools on early NO trans linked lessons.

cdn0.genderedintelligence.co.uk/2012/11/17/17-46-14-TCC2010_report.pdf

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 14:55
  • "No Outsiders – Year 6 class in the North east” Katie Salkeld Katie Salkeld’s school became involved with the No Outsiders project in 2008. ''No Outsiders' was a 28-month research project (end date: March 2009) based in primary schools and funded by The Economic and Social Research Council. The project was led by Elizabeth Atkinson and Renée DePalma at the University of Sunderland, in collaboration with researchers at the University of Exeter and the Institute of Education (University of London) and a team of research assistants. Katie relayed her experiences as a teacher in addressing the issue of diversity within her school, from reading books that feature stories around LGBT lives or explore gender variance in some shape or form to a Diversity MADD (music, art, dance and drama) week. Katie Salkeld went onto work with Jay Stewart from Gendered Intelligence and introduced the year 6 to transgendered identities. Katie talked about the work and the

positive impact this has had on the children.
Katie Salkeld
Katie Salkeld has been teaching for 8 years and is currently a year 6 teacher (10&11 year olds) in a North East school and is responsible for the transition between primary and secondary school. As part of the school management team, she is also the Upper Key Stage 2 leader*"

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 14:57

The after conference entertainment was appropriate Hmm

This was followed by an optional evening event
“Tit Bits”: An Evening with Bird la Bird
in the Embassy Theatre from 7pm – 9pm

Goosefoot · 14/04/2020 15:03

How much time are these students spending on these topics?

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 15:04

So Gendered intelligence worked with a teacher involved in the original NO project.

In one class, Year Six boys at Hotspur Primary in Newcastle are asked to describe the ‘girlish’ things they like to do, while the girls say what ‘boyish’ pursuits they enjoy.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3298715/Children-young-FOUR-given-transgender-lessons-encourage-explore-gender-identities.html

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 15:14

How much time are these students spending on these topics?

Not a huge amount in my son's school but it depends. Elmer was a big part of their topic work in reception, making displays etc and "celebrating" or recognising differences between themselves and their friends. There's a book from the programme added to each term's work under pshe. I imagine one focussed lesson but potentially more.

The thing is that teachers have the freedom these days to take something as far as they personally wish.

Under the new ofsted frame work of September 2019, Ofsted have actually stated that one school's curriculum will look different to another's depending on their school community and what is important for those pupils. So a school where there's a range of cultural backgrounds and the risk of racism or also a high number of pupils identifying as trans or bullying has been identified as an issue, the school will tilt its curriculum to address these.

As we've seen in recent cases, a teacher or head teacher who is themselves gay or even trans can cheerlead lgbt and take on quality marks such as stonewall etc..

Usefully there's a current trend for schools wishing to tick all ofsteds boxes to create a mission statement for each subject for the website, and upload the curriculum overview for parents and ofsted to see.

School curriculums were going to be judged under the new ofsted framework in sept 2020; this was pushed back to 2021 in February. Who knows now after Coronavirus.

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 15:31

Fallen down a rabbit hole as I know some of these schools. K Salkeld is now deputy head at this school. As an example of how a school can take these things on and run with it, the local trust ran a film competition on the theme of 'No Outsiders' which I'm
Assuming was linked to the programme in Newcastle. This school is a stonewall champion school.

The thing is that a great deal of the premise of the programme is extremely good. The queerness hiding in plain sight, and the issues around gender identity and the harm it can give young people, especially young lesbians, is a huge issue that so many people do not see.

https://www.outerwestlearningtrust.co.uk/stream/news/full/1/-//

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/04/2020 15:31

Don't think that link works

Andrew Moffatt No Outsiders online lessons
Andrew Moffatt No Outsiders online lessons
R0wantrees · 14/04/2020 15:39

In the preface he's careful to use gender reassignment and sex only.

This was the case in the first book. The introductory chapter correctly named the none protected characteristics on which the book/scheme was to be built. Subsequent chapters & many resources then replaced/conflated sex with gender &/or gender identity.

cf National Education Union report January 2019:

'The results of UK Feminista and NEU’s groundbreaking study are clear: schools, education bodies and Government must take urgent action to tackle sexism in schools. "It's just everywhere" is a study on sexism in schools and how we tackle it.'
neu.org.uk/advice/its-just-everywhere-sexism-schools

truthisarevolutionaryact · 14/04/2020 15:55

How much time are these students spending on these topics
Below is a charter mark scheme that the Scottish primary school (Glencoats) had on their website - the school who welcomed the drag queen with the online porn presence to their school. The amount of staff and pupil time demanded frankly defies belief. Unless of course they have successfully wrapped up all learning issues, SEN, safeguarding, mental health, disabilities and the rest.
It's self indulgent in the extreme.

blogs.glowscotland.org.uk/re/public/glencoatsprimary/uploads/sites/2371/2019/10/LGBT-Schools-Charter-Standards-e-use-003.pdf

Aesopfable · 14/04/2020 16:05

This issue is a bit involved for me (though I really should read up on it) but how can a programme that asks children about ‘girlish’ and ‘boyish’ activities not be sexist? How can you tackle sexism when you are teaching a system that relies on it (transideology)?

truthisarevolutionaryact · 14/04/2020 16:09

Aesopfable
You're right. The whole ideology is as regressive and dependent on superficial sex stereotypes as it's possible to be. The population are starting to see this - helped of course by the activists who claim that words are literal violence and that the dictionary definition of a woman constitutes hate speech.

R0wantrees · 14/04/2020 16:17

How can you tackle sexism when you are teaching a system that relies on it (transideology)?

Exactly.
Also how can you identify and challenge sexism if you can't/don't name sex?