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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Chase Strangio suggesting private video calls with children

21 replies

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 17/03/2020 14:08

Ages ago, I read something about how it was always "the women" who block predators and risky people from children. In that case, they referred to Jimmy Savile, when it was largely female nurses and HCPs, subtly and without advertising it, preventing him accessing children, when the authorities were rolling out the red carpet and literally handing him keys.

FF to now, and Chase Strangio (born female, now identifies as masculine, works as a lawyer for the ACLU); put out a tweet directly encouraging vulnerable children to privately message and video chat with them. Chase being a very public trans activist with a significantly biased, trans-focused agenda.

Like before, "the women" immediately started trying to block this. Chase eventually got seriously narked off by people pointing out the absolutely disgraceful lack of safeguarding and risks this entailed and deleted that tweet in a strop.

Only to follow it up with more snarky whinging about "anti-trans" replies and how "TERFS" were spoiling Chase's offer as "a mass of unwarranted and relentless harassment"

You know what? I am happy to be called whatever the fuck you want to call me, if all it means is standing in the path of adults deliberately trying to access vulnerable children and influence them and saying "No". I'm no saintly mother figure, but I know shady shit when I see it.

No, Chase. No fucking way.

thepostmillennial.com/twitter-slams-aclu-lawyer-for-soliciting-dms-from-minors
twitter.com/chasestrangio/status/1239624134067400705
twitter.com/chasestrangio/status/1239603981023940608

(PS. yes I know "not all women" and "yes some men", but overwhelmingly this is the case)

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NewNameGuy · 17/03/2020 14:18

This person and the ACLU are trash.

LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 17/03/2020 14:35

It's all over Twitter at the moment, with the back drop of 'social isolation' there are loads of queer activist types offering to DM youngsters who are isolated, and it needs calling out every single time because it is precisely this kind of shit that highlights the Queer movement's total lack of understanding safeguarding.

So many people saying they mean no harm, or trotting out all sorts of irrelevant stats about abuse to deflect from the harm they are doing.

Let us be CRYSTAL CLEAR and continue to bang this drum - if you claim to care about children you class as LGBTQ+ then stop trying to normalize them speaking privately to strangers, especially online. You are putting then in danger.

LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 17/03/2020 14:36

God I'm so bloody angry about this.

Durgasarrow · 17/03/2020 15:23

Chase Strangio has been an unhinged creeper for years.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 17/03/2020 15:44

I don't disagree, yet Chase continues to enjoy online SM favour where anyone else (aka women) would have been thrown off a long time ago; and also a prestigious career with a very public organisation that is still very highly regarded despite its highly dubious position on many issues.

How can all those things be possible for a person of Chase's character?

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LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 17/03/2020 15:51

Wouldn't be a sacred caste reason, would it? I mean that's unthinkable.

Chipperfish · 17/03/2020 16:00

Wasnt Chase Strangio the one who posted about how hard it was for them and other trans people to keep up with bills and debts that they owed because some were in a previous name (think tweets are now deleted). Got completely ratioed 100s of people pointed out that people deal with name and address changes all the time, its just basic adulting and really shouldnt be that much trouble for someone with a job and law degree.

After witnessing the childishness of that little debacle I cant really imagine what useful advice or help they can give to anyone, especially vulnerable teens. Or is it just an emoting service?

LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 17/03/2020 16:19

Yes, Chase had found themselves in debt because it was too emotionally difficult to open bills addressed to their former name and cited this as an example of the unique oppression of trans people. I can't recall if they included a Patreon grifting link, but it wouldn't be unusual.

Chase struggles with basics like that - so clearly a demand that they abide by safeguarding was only ever going to result in a petulant tantrum. I echo Buzz at this point - how in hell is such an individual in any kind of position of influence?

Lordfrontpaw · 17/03/2020 16:22

They’ve run off on a wee huff though.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 17/03/2020 18:31

This has made me very, very angry. Nobody is above the law. In my view normal safeguarding procedures are akin to the law. We all have to comply, no matter how unlikely it may seem that any one of us would abuse our position. A self-obsessed person is totally unable to see beyond the end of their nose. 'How dare you accuse me, what are you suggesting?' FFS! It's not about you, it's about everybody. We can't make exceptions. If you can't see that, you need help.

BeetrootRocks · 17/03/2020 22:48

The thing that pisses me off with all that Lady,

Is that women have been complaining for years about being called the wrong name

Ms June Smith being changed to Mrs June brown even when they're not married, or are married and have not changed their name

Or even worse ms June Smith becomes Mr and Mrs Bob Smith and loses her whole name

Not to mention the stuff, hopefully less often, where even though they apply for stuff and are paying the chap gets 'first' and no one will talk to them...

All of that stuff we were told was tradition, trivial, don't make a fuss etc.

Women have been misnamed for years and years. And were told to suck it up.

Now we're told that we don't understand how it feels?

This whole thing is utterly tone deaf.

LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 17/03/2020 23:31

Because if Chase and co. acknowledge the years that women have been battling against gender and the strictures it imposes, Chase would have to reassess Chase's position in the hierarchy of Queer. Without being the Very Special People For Whom Every Gust Of Wind Is An Agonizing Oppression™️ Chase is just a baby butch with bum fluff and no humility. Worse, lots of middle aged white women would actually have more of an argument about bring oppressed than Chase.

I mean, none of this should be anything but just pitiably embarrassing for Chaseself, but Chase is pushing dangerous ideas and practices that threaten vulnerable youngsters safety, which makes Chase a menace to be challenged.

Clymene · 17/03/2020 23:40

Chase is a lawyer and a parent so really should know better. Although if this article is anything to go by, Chase's parenting skills are questionable

www.vice.com/en_us/article/paedam/we-mourn-we-fight-we-love-moving-forward-as-a-trans-dad-in-trumps-america

Clymene · 17/03/2020 23:41

And chase is another parent assuming their child's gender. When will this cruelty end?

jadefinch · 18/03/2020 07:36

You can get kicked off twitter for misgendering but Chase Strangio breaking the most obvious rule of child safeguarding is considered fine.

Also, several US blue tick women replied to Chase saying they were inspired by the abusive comments Chase had written

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 18/03/2020 08:33

You can get kicked off twitter for misgendering but Chase Strangio breaking the most obvious rule of child safeguarding is considered fine.

Take a look at who runs Twitter and the reasons why will become very clear.

It really isn't on that TRAs keep doing this, encouraging kids to contact them directly when they're adults. Even if the specific people concerned have no untoward interest in children at all the pattern of behavior still sets the expectation among kids that this is an OK thing for adults to request of them, and it's not. It's not even deliberate grooming in most cases, just stupidity combined with a vehement refusal to listen to criticism when it comes from women.

Lordfrontpaw · 18/03/2020 08:37

The normal is just bloody weird.

As a child - I wouldn’t speak to a strange adult unless I absolutely had to, and adults were a pretty boring and uninteresting lot anyway.

My parents and teachers taught us that if a stranger/adult that wasn’t family/friend/police/teacher/santa etc offered to give you anything (see my puppies, have a sweetie) you ran screaming.

Now it’s ‘hey kids come and hang out with your cool auntie/uncle/new momma’

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 18/03/2020 08:44

There was definitely a stage in my teens when I started thinking it was cool to hang out with adults. Luckily at that point adults who wanted to hang out with 14 year old were seen as creeps rather than saviors doing vital social justice work.

Lordfrontpaw · 18/03/2020 08:47

My mum had a very good I sit into human nature - but it didn’t take a genius to work out that the 24 year old man picking her friends 14 year old daughter up from school in his car wasn’t just taking her for an ice cream and some hand holding (which her mum suggested - odd since her mum got pregnant at 14...).

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 18/03/2020 08:52

Normally people cut women a bit more slack in this regard, and I think on some level Chase knows that and was hoping it would head off criticism. Nope mate, sorry.

Clymene · 18/03/2020 09:15

I think people like chase have got themselves into such a victim mindset that they feel that the normal rules simply don't apply to them and others who are part of their oppressed minority. They all must cling together.

Read the article I posted.

Chase is basically a wealthy privately educated white person who has identified out of female oppression but is desperately trying to demonstrate their credentials as part of a 'family' of the most oppressed. Note that in all the people chase lists as the most oppressed, Chase doesn't mention women. That must be nice for Chase's wife. I also see that Chase took leave after their child was born, even though the wife bore the baby. Funny how oppression works isn't it?

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