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phescreening.blog.gov.uk/2020/03/13/pregnant-men-best-care/

Men can’t get pregnant. Trans men can of course. But pregnant men is not a thing.

gendered spaces, such as maternity units

Is that because women are there?

It's too early in the day for this.

Oh, FFS!. As OnceWas says: "It's just too early in the day for this shit" Grrrr.

Whilst I think transmen need to hear all of that, and to havea space they can feel secure and safe in whilst receiving pre/post natal care, I am somewhat surprised that this had a 'human interest' case study attached when Ryan's observance was

Being trans has not been a problem at all when dealing with people. It was only computers that wouldn’t accept me!

Nothing that was said or done by the midwifery team was relevant after that. It is the same issues, how to keep trans people medically safe if they legally erase all knowledge of their natal sex!

This is one time to be thankful that the Computer Says No!

So that first sentence
Public Health England (PHE) works hard to reduce inequalities in health regardless of age, gender identity, religion, ethnicity or sexual orientation. But we know that trans people can still face challenges when accessing health care.
Any protected characteristics missing there?

My comment

"Public Health England (PHE) works hard to reduce inequalities in health regardless of age, gender identity, religion, ethnicity or sexual orientation."

Why have you omitted the word 'sex'? It is in the Equality act, and your duty under that act is to anticipate inequalities. How can you miss out 'sex' as a characteristic when ALL pregnant people, regardless of gender identity (including those who reject the term) have the protected characteristic of being women or girl by virtue of their sex

Gender identity isn’t protected in law either, it’s gender reassignment. But....

I also noticed this bit As a result of his blood sample being rejected, the hospital has changed its code of conduct to specify that: labs should be made aware in advance when they will be receiving a sample with a male name
How does that work? Do they phone ahead and say.. Ryan is female really? Or disclose the trans status? Is that not a confidentiality thingy?

FFS men can not get pregnant, transmen can.

And the fact that gov.uk has quoted the Equalities act incorrectly!

And mine...

You say: Public Health England (PHE) works hard to reduce inequalities in health regardless of age, gender identity, religion, ethnicity or sexual orientation.

I think you may need to go and read the Equalities Act 2010 as you are misquoting the protected characteristics, leaving yourselves open to accusations of discrimination.

By all means refer to transmen by their preferred pronouns. By all means work out the IT issue you have with transpeople and computer designation of SEX!

But do remember that the EA 2010 is an extant law and you need to act according to its actual wording the wishful thinking of trans supporting organisations.

All pregnant people are of the same SEX... see that? Not gender identity but biologically based sex. No matter how an individual identifies, they retain their natal sex. You are the NHS, you know that!! No matter how politically correct you wish to be, you know about sexual dimorphism.

Keep your brave and stunning headline "Pregnant Men" but do have a good look at what you are doing to the EA 2010 and how that could very easily be detrimental to you; over 50% of the world population; funding for sex based services; research into sex based medical conditions, etc.

And saying ‘she’ is triggering...

For crying out loud.

And they tinker with the computer, scratch their heads over the pronouns, debate over the issue of 'male v female' names. It takes human resources to do all this shit.

Meanwhile back down in ICU, your husband/wife/daughter/son - list not intended to be in any way exhaustive - dies because there aren't enough health care professionals.

Shame on you, Public Health England

Trans person does the one thing only female sexed people can do and finds it triggering. 🙄

I couldn’t read that link properly I was so fuming at the EA misquote.

@JessicaLangoustine Very well said!!!!

I don't understand what part of "identifying as a man" and the body dysmorphia pertaining to that includes the desire to grow a baby and give birth.

" Being pregnant and male"

male: denoting the sex that produces gametes, especially spermatozoa, with which a female may be fertilized or inseminated to produce offspring

nicky7654 Sometimes there are just not enough swear words....

gendered spaces, such as maternity units

I don't recall being feminine while on a maternity unit. Being female certainly, as I was busy doing that uniquely female thing of growing and producing a new human being. But being feminine...no. Certainly no more than various transmen who have given birth were. They didn't wear makeup, neither did I. They didn't wear dresses, neither did I. They didn't simper, neither did I. They didn't have feminine names on their wristbands, neither did I. Our blankets weren't pink and we were called by our first names, no Mrs or Miss or even Mx. So how was the maternity unit a gendered space?

Nitwits.

Also agreeing with OnceWas. I think it's also because government info sources are the ,last place I would expect to see such bollocks. I mean I go there to tax my car, read FO travel updates to risky countries, so, you know, facts.

And yes - if being in a female body is so triggering to a person why the hell would they want to do that most female thing of all and grow a baby?!

If I wasn't so headfucked about how much I'm agreeing with Piers Morgan this morning I'd have the energy to get angry.

I can't see any comments. Just the title of the document 'Ensuring pregnant men get equal quality care' is pissing me off though.

Men can't get pregnant.

For goodness sake. Oh and merrily staying 'assigned sex at birth'...argh!!!! THIS IS NOT A THING!!!

It’s the caption underneath the picture “Ryan gave birth to a healthy baby boy”

How do they know? Has anyone asked the baby? The dissonance is just so ridiculous.

I discovered when I grew up, l that I actually needed to mature the hell up and stop acting like an arsey teenager who thought the world revolved around me. Was I wrong?