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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans activist who advertises Pornhub given role with children in Portsmouth

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jadefinch · 11/03/2020 11:20

Claire Udy was a Labour councillor but quit the party over her anti-semitic tweets including one where she tried to sell a second hand travel system for a baby and added that it was good value because the child was 'not even a Jew'.

As councillor most of her work was around trans activism, including her boasting that she got the council to fly the trans flag.

But perhaps the oddest thing she did was advertise Pornhub in her own bio.

Portsmouth Education Partnership has named her as its 'LGBTQ+ champion for young people'.

twitter.com/PortsmouthPEP/status/1233501108133400583

Trans activist who advertises Pornhub given role with children in Portsmouth
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Lordfrontpaw · 11/03/2020 16:52

Either no vetting or the care is open. Either way... what arent the police asking questions? What aren’t the parents screaming from the rooftops? Your child, you believe because you are told, is in a high suicide risk group. They arrest a support and friendship group. You discover someone high up has a history... what do you do?

In ye olden days my grandma (fierce geordie) would have been down there with a rolling pin (probably following my grandfather who absolutely adored children and was a tough Geordie!). Not that I condone vigilantes.

Yet nowadays if anyone mentions this - it’s a hate crime?

Lordfrontpaw · 11/03/2020 16:53

Sorry - my autocorrect is randomly changing why’s to what’s etc!

megletthesecond · 11/03/2020 16:55

What could possibly go wrong eh? Hmm

WhatKatyDidNot · 11/03/2020 16:56

Britain is becoming a very dangerous place for gay and lesbian youth. Every organisation purporting to help and support them has completely abandoned every safeguarding principle. Open door for adults with malign intent.

R0wantrees · 11/03/2020 17:03

GNC Centric (Ben)

'My Trans Youth Group Experience with Morgan Page'
Extract
"I first met Morgan Page in 2012 at a conference for Gay-Straight Alliances from high schools in the greater Toronto area. Though I’ve since detransitioned, I identified as trans at that time, but I didn’t know any trans people in real life, only online. Morgan was a super nice, friendly person and invited me to the youth group she ran at The 519 in Toronto (LGBT Community Centre). Most of the time, the Trans Youth Group attendees were majority MTFs and “nonbinary” (NB) males. There was an upper age limit (somewhere between 21-25) but it was a pretty small group, usually fewer than 10 people; so when people aged out they just stuck around. I guess others learned that the age limit wasn’t being enforced because more and more older (30-40 year old) MTFs started to join.

I remember one day, there were three MTFs over 40 who were hitting on the teen FTMs, very explicitly. It was obviously making us uncomfortable, but almost no one ever said anything, only changed the topic or tried to engage them in a conversation away from us. The only time I remember them being asked to leave was when Morgan was away and the group was led by an FTM substitute.

It was very common for the group to discuss the logistics of sex before and after SRS, kinky sex, and erotic fanfiction. I remember Morgan asking the three teens in the room, including me, if we were comfortable talking about this, but obviously we weren’t going to say no now that the conversation had already been started by these older people. I know of at least three FTMs who entered into relationships with older MTFs while in this group, all of which seemed very unhealthy to me. To me, FTMs under 18 dating or sleeping with (usually kinky) MTFs over 20 seemed very sexually exploitative. Healthy boundaries between adults and minors were foreign to this group, much like in the greater queer and trans community.

Morgan didn’t present herself as someone to emulate, but as someone to share her trans experiences with us. She spoke of her time as a teen prostitute, her SRS, her art, her writing, and her connections in the queer community. I think most of the teens saw her as someone to just give us advice and support, since she could recommend which clinics or doctors to see to start HRT and tell you what you needed to say to doctors so they’d sign off on SRS. She’d talk about what to expect after SRS. She knew the MTF side personally, but she also was intimate with a fair number of trans men so she told us about the FTM side too. At the time, to me, she seemed like the magic key to accessing all the medical transition resources I wanted. This was a trans support group, so one might assume this was normal—and it may have been for such a gathering—but in retrospect, I find elements of this concerning.

Unsurprisingly, most of the teens seemed to be there without their parents’ knowledge (as I was), but there was unquestioning support for all of them to medically transition as soon as they wanted" (continues)
4thwavenow.com/2019/01/26/my-trans-youth-group-experience-with-morgan-page/

'Coercion & Abuse in the Gender ID Community'

multiplemum3 · 11/03/2020 17:07

She's fucking insufferable.

EwwSprouts · 11/03/2020 17:16

Looks like she has deleted all tweets/info.

HarrietThePi · 11/03/2020 18:44

Thanks for sharing that video r0wan. I had not realised that male privilege was used so forcefully against ftm in this way. Of course if tw have never had male privilege, as I have seen argued before, it stands to reason that tm have always had it, even pre-transition.

HarrietThePi · 11/03/2020 18:44

Sorry have just remembered that is not what this thread's about! I got caught up in the video, sorry.

R0wantrees · 11/03/2020 18:58

Harriet The abuse dynamic of age & sex are very familiar.

littlbrowndog · 11/03/2020 19:04

I think prism have something else going on. I saw it on twitter

Will have a look

Seethefairfromtheair · 11/03/2020 20:13

I alerted my daughters school yesterday, the teachers read her terf posts, her role in joining a mob to harass women & she will not be invited anytime soon, the teacher I spoke to also has a role in the LGBT youth society so hopefully she will talk to other volunteers, she reassured me CRB checks are done on all their youth workers. The council wont do much, I put in a complaint in 2018 over her abusive terf tweets, nothing done. The porn is on her personal twitter page which is now locked, for months it was open under her name, its only recent that she opened an official councillor account, first tweets were about terfs & they say we are obsessed, pot, kettle & all that.

Lordfrontpaw · 11/03/2020 20:19

At least you highlighted a worrying number (and one is a worrying number) if people like that in positions like that.

HarrietThePi · 11/03/2020 20:35

R0wantrees yes very familiar. The "relationship" she mentions between the child ftm "sub" and adult mtf "dom", just makes my stomach sick. I had to take a break from the video, especially after having read the Trevor Phillips thread earlier today.

R0wantrees · 11/03/2020 20:50

the teacher I spoke to also has a role in the LGBT youth society so hopefully she will talk to other volunteers, she reassured me CRB checks are done on all their youth workers.

CRB/DBS checks are only indicative of convictions or if enhanced, intelligence.
Schools might do well to consider whether 'youth workers' are adequately qualified, trained & supervised.

Seethefairfromtheair · 11/03/2020 21:21

@R0wantrees I did also ask why our local Pride Youth society were teaching very young children that sex is fluid, its all on instagram so open to public, a pic at christmas of a group of very young children colouring in the gender bread man with the volunteers, the post is accompanied by text, "We decorated our own gingerbread people and took time to discuss the fluidity of gender identity, expression and physical sex; to the young people who wanted to discuss it" teacher wanted to know more about why this is bonkers science so I have emailed her a ton of stuff, hopefully the word is out, its a harmful dodgy ideology.

R0wantrees · 12/03/2020 09:23

Seethefairfromtheair The adults responsible for that Pride Youth society are demonstrating that they do not understand Safeguarding or child development.

They are promoting a ideology & using children for their activism.
This is contrary to good practise in youth work.

R0wantrees · 12/03/2020 11:19

current relevent thread about LGBT+ youth group Safeguarding issues:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3728717-Charity-criticised-for-handing-senior-role-to-Aimee-Challenor-who-defended-paedophile-dad

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