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Sports England making sports more inclusive, being advised by bloke who signed the Labour misogynist pledge

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Clymene · 08/03/2020 08:31

According to the MoS, Sports England want sports to be more inclusive of trans people.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8086977/Men-transition-women-allowed-compete-female-sporting-events.html

Jamie Hooper, Sport England's equality and diversity person is a gay man and a fully paid up Stonewall dude. He signed Labour LGBT's pledge calling WPUK a hate group.

Jamie is looking for board level positions according to his LinkedIn profile. Jamie has realised which side his bread is buttered and that throwing women under the bus is an effective route to career progression. Go Jamie!

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MindTheMinotaur · 08/03/2020 09:17

Yeah, sometimes have that feeling that some gay men have finally found a type of woman that they can really champion.

Languishingfemale · 08/03/2020 09:18

Indeed Clymene Jamie has discovered the gravy train (he's evidently been on it for some time ) and knows that removing single sex sport and spaces from women is critical to his personal advancement. There's a name for men like this.....

Michelleoftheresistance · 08/03/2020 09:40

So they'll have male sport as one category while making female sport 'inclusive' of males in their sport too. Because the males want it. And male feelings matter more than equality of opportunity or the feelings of females.

You couldn't signal 'male supremacist' and 'female hating' much more strongly really.

HorseWithNoLang · 08/03/2020 09:47

Hairy Male Supremacist.

R0wantrees · 08/03/2020 10:09

From article in OP,
Mr Hooper, 29, has previously worked at Swim England, which was forced in 2018 to axe official guidance encouraging transgender people to use swimming pools after criticism it was ‘sinister’ and ‘dangerous to women’.

Swim England's self id policies prompted the first #ManFriday action two years ago!

Hannah Clark, speech made by ManFriday’s Media Officer at a Women’s Place UK meeting on 17th May 2018.
(extracts)
"I’ve called ManFriday a movement, I think a better word might be concept. We are a loosely organised group of women who are horrified by the implications of self identification and the resultant erasure of women. We are making a stand against what is happening by self identifying as men on Fridays. We show how preposterous it is to be able to self-declare as the opposite sex by doing exactly that.

This all came about when Amy Desir took it upon herself to address the ludicrous guidance Swim England produced to engage trans people in swimming. This guidance, soundly rejected by the good ladies of Mumsnet, included such gems as telling us women who object to penises in their changing rooms require education, whilst our boobs should be covered at all times for fear of causing offence. Amy started a Mumsnet thread one Friday morning in February telling us that she had arranged a meeting at her local pool to discuss her inclusion in men only swimming sessions as a self identified man in accordance with the guidance." (continues)

Amy’s meeting ended with her being told they’d take time to consider her needs and would revert to her within a fortnight, though they eventually took a little over three weeks. In the meantime the rest of us started writing to our local pools. Men only swimming sessions are fairly few and far between, even in London, but I found one in near me in Dulwich, and sent an email asking them their policy.

They responded that I, as a female bodied self identified man, would be welcome to swim at their pool during the men only session and should change in the facilities that I felt necessary for myself. Having got the green light I shared my plan with the ManFriday group and what happened next was all a bit unexpected, to be honest. Amy said she was able to come, which was great as I really didn’t fancy doing it alone, and some journalists contacted us through twitter as they wanted to cover what we were doing.

You can read most of what happened next in the Sunday papers from the 18th of March, and I’ll be happy to talk about it in the pub tonight. Some points I’d just like noted for the record though:

We swam separately, there was no strength in numbers (I was terrified, I can tell you)
I wore a rash vest. As comfortable as I am with Amy swimming topless I didn’t want to. I hope it was still pretty clear I am a woman and that I shouldn’t have been in the swim session.
I feel awful for putting the staff in the leisure centre in the firing line. Service workers on the front line, often on minimum wage, are being put on the spot with difficult decisions due to the ill-considered edicts from on high. This is really not on. And this next bit has been a secret up to now. I popped back to the leisure centre with some chocolates and a letter thanking them for their professionalism and appreciating we had drawn them into this melee but very much not apologising for what we had done.
Swim England removed their guidance the following week and have stated they’re opening it up for consultation. I have registered to be included in this, and urge you all to do the same via their website. Let’s get women’s voices heard above Stonewall, Mermaids, Allsorts, GIRES, Transfigurations and the rest of the trans lobby." (continues)
manfridayuk.org/2018/05/18/why-manfriday/#more-1541

Needmoresleep · 08/03/2020 10:13

If you are on twitter you may be interested in answering the IWD question Sport England pose about how to get more girls and women involved in sport

mobile.twitter.com/Sport_England/status/1236593250208751617

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/03/2020 10:25

Swim England's self id policies prompted the first #ManFriday action two years ago!

Thank you to the women of #ManFriday Thanks

Clymene · 08/03/2020 10:31

Yes thank you to the fabulous ManFriday women. And thanks R0 for reminding us of the history. Sounds like Jamie is trying to reinstate the sinister guidance

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Languishingfemale · 11/03/2020 19:04

Just had a look at the Sport England twitter thread about women and sport. The comments are awesome:
mobile.twitter.com/Sport_England/status/1236593250208751617

I also note that their resident misogynist has protected his twitter account - evidently doesn't want his anti women rhetoric to be visible. Funny that.

scottishbride · 11/03/2020 20:26

Wow, I really hope they look at that Twitter feed, I was desperate to see a blue tick person reply but no luck yet. Plenty of men though so maybe they will listen

Lordfrontpaw · 11/03/2020 20:30

That twitter probably wasn’t quite what they planned. I’m sure they’d were expecting ‘give girls pink membership cards!’ type of thing.

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