George Galloway says he will take on the transgender lobby

[jadefinch]

I'm not exactly a fan of Mr Galloway and also think his language in this tweet is typically self-absorbed - not sure he appreciates that many people have been fighting this fascism for years now.

twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/1236057261820297217?s=19

But what is interesting is the responses (to this and several other pro gender critical tweets he's written in the last few days). His followers are the far left, red-rose-in-the-bio Corbyn supporting Marxist and working class-identifying people who've typically provided the phoney support that has helped the transgender lobby grow so quickly. But they're almost entirely in agreement with Galloway - and it feels like he's enabling them to speak out about this.

I wonder: is this irrelevant?; will the literal communists who bang on about trans rights without ever believing anything they've said now be more quiet?; or even are we witnessing the start of a civil war over this issue among the 'far left'?

He can fuck off. Like that one with the lizard people, the arguments are strong enough without them.

Rowantrees

Did you see the interview between Carl Benjamin and Posie Parker? It was quite good.

Oh, gosh, Brahmin left is perfect. (Especially given how many of them are vegans.)

I honestly don't think there is almost any link between your views on this and your wider political views. Both GC people and gender identity people span the political spectrum. I'm hard left, and there are loads of hard left GC people. There are also right wing ones.

The main link is with age. Most of the extreme gender ID activists are under 25. Young people are also on average more left wing, but I don't think that the two things come from the same source.

Link to review:

www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/03/09/thomas-piketty-goes-global?utm_source

No idea if it will work. However pleased Piketty is tackling income distribution. It's always surprised me the extent to which it has been ignored by modern left leaning politicians.

Socialist workers and momentum are hard line trans. A SW friend told me it wasn't enough that I respect a persons right to live and present as they wish, I actually have to believe Twaw otherwise I'm just paying lip service
He's also an mysogonist who thinks women should look stereotypically attractive. Galloway is his hero. Can't wait to see him implode

He can fuck off. Like that one with the lizard people, the arguments are strong enough without them.

As I was born into a middle-class family, I have been told on Twitter to butt out of feminist threads: apparently I am privileged and therefore should not support this cause. However, when I worked in the City I spent my time championing the feminist cause which, as an example, finally allowed women to deal on the Stock Exchange floor.

In my opinion, all people great and small, were birthed by a woman and therefore if they choose to fight on our behalf, that is excellent. As I have said before, George has a following who possibly have not heard such an eloquent and well-informed woman as Sonia Poulton. By bringing onto his show at RT I am sure a few people who were not aware of the problems are now on board.

We need to convert everyone, or at least as many as possible, to our cause: if this means our enemies' enemy is our friend, so be it.

Why are people up in arms about someone else with a large following coming out as gender critical? Because you don't like his politics? All us left-wing women have been agreeing with people that is other arenas we could never agree with because this is not a matter of left or right.

At the moment we are in the strange situation of unnatural bedfellows
eg the Daily Mail comments section is a bastion of sanity (on their coverage of the Exeter story)
BUT
I still do not trust many of them
particular folks like Galloway who has form for being a nasty piece of work

Needmoresleep
That Pickety Quote is excellent

The key question. Where were you two to three years ago?*
*
I was definitely fast asleep, I don't think it's fair to accuse those who weren't privy to all of this (yes I was a Guardian reader) to not caring.

GG and other men saying "Where were you?" insinuating that NO-ONE has been doing anything about this so far and therefore he is a hero is crap.

But as a PP said opening up conversation to the more general public hearing SP speak is a very good thing.

Blimey! I used to rate George, then I went right off him. Now he's making sense again.

I think the Communist Party are also GC. We're in that zone where left meets right.

I can see how it could look like that, Beamur, but I think it's simpler.

The traditional right has conservative social views; the traditional left organises around ordinary working-class people. No reason for either of them to take up a strange new ideology. Every reason for them to want to protect their children.

The left and right do differ on attitudes to women's rights. But even there, both sides would would defend our 'traditional' rights, eg to privacy and safety. These were non-controversial until recently.

It's only really liberals and the ultra-woke who have taken up the new ideology. And wokesters aren't left wing -- identity politics is individualistic to the point of being antisocial, which is pretty much the opposite of socialism.

Good for him.

Oh fucking great, just what women need

He's a massive dick. But as someone else said upthread, stopped clocks are right twice a day. Can't imagine his support will do the issue any favours though.

As @FloralBinting said

Oh, and Galloway is a total bellend and I'll be content to wrestle on without his 'assistance'

He is not helpful.

Mindtheclegs, I was really talking about politicians, who really should have been aware of the issue.

We know who did the heavy lifting: David TC Davis, Joanna Cherry, Jackie Doyle-Price, Dame Tanni Grey-Tompson, Lord Moonie and, not too many, more.

I have no problem with others joining the band wagon, indeed wish everyone would. And I don't think an ability to comprehend that there is a difference between XX and XY has anything to do with party politics. But I am not about to laud Galloway for speaking up at this point.

I used to quite fancy Gorgeous George. From afar of course.

As to where he was two or three years ago - two or three years ago nobody dreamed it would all go as far as it has! The trans agenda was stealthy.

I still say, "Good for him", not that his influence will be great but every little helps.

Oh, and Galloway is a total bellend and I'll be content to wrestle on without his 'assistance'

There was a time when I wouldn't have minded wrestling with him.

Eeeewwww!!🤣

Galloway was a very vocal and effective anti- separatist campaigner during the Scottish referendum. He wasn't affiliated formally with Better Together. The separatists of course tried to make much of this.

I know someone who took his pro- separatist , first time voting teenage daughters to hear Galloway speak. Whatever Galloway said made them change their minds.

I'm in the stopped clock camp. Glad when anyone states the obvious truth of at least general TWATW (we don't have to agree on everything) but I'm not going to give him any attention other than this because I dont trust him.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=KQA2X4yvK_g

FloralBinting Sat 07-Mar-20 22:07:15
Eeeewwww!!🤣
.....
:-).
Ah well it was all in the mind and I am a few years older than him. He never knew so no harm done. I would have liked to have known him when we were both young and single.....