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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Apparently saying only women menstruate is transphobic

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TheWordWomanIsTaken · 06/03/2020 19:14

Seriously, just seriously???
Apparently, Ms Poen is taking a kicking on Twitter following her assertion that only women have periods and only women go through menopause.
Each day I think we have reached a new low but this one utterly flummoxes me that the Feminist Society at Exeter University believes otherwise. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8083431/Exeter-University-economics-lecturer-branded-transphobic-LGBT-feminist-students.html
I can only find a link in the Daily Mail to this story but at least it is reaching an audience who will call out this batshittery for what it is.

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ShesCurly · 06/03/2020 20:13

So many headlines I read now are ones that a year or two ago I would have seen and instantly known they were satire from The Onion. I miss those days. The fuck is the world coming to. We are being erased bit by bit, every day.

GoatyGoatyMingeMinge · 06/03/2020 20:18

What do you mean goaty?

That it's classic Mail distortion. It's a bit like them reporting "leading climate scientist explains why global warming isn't happening." The "leading scientist" will be a delusional nobody. The mail can always dig up someone with ludicrous views to either vindicate or outrage their ridiculous readership.

datasgingercatspot · 06/03/2020 20:25

These people have managed to come up with more whacked out shit whilst stone cold sober than my friends and I did on LSD.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 06/03/2020 20:26

I received a direct plea from academic colleagues only today to sign a letter (apparently with over 1000 signatories) to the Guardian of all papers, lambasting them for their relentless maligning of trans people. I don't know about anyone else here, but I've seen them do no such thing. The reverse, in fact.

I ignored the tweet.

And this is Exeter, a university which has no compunction about allowing rapist students to return to campus at the detriment of the wellbeing of the female student concerned.

You couldn't pay me enough to work in that place. But it's also naive to assume this kind of toxic, anti-female rhetoric isn't permeating other universities, too. Sadly, it is.

ThePurported · 06/03/2020 20:27

Frankly we should be grateful for nutters like this. If they were all devious, self serving shits like the cult leaders we'd be having a much harder job of fighting back because they've all STFU and cut back the intimidation tactics.

It's one of the things the TRAs failed to envisage when they started demanding 'acceptance without exception'. Most people instinctively know that the transbian female-penis stuff is just men and their sex fantasies, but when young women claim to be men who menstruate, it sounds alarming.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/03/2020 20:32

And this is Exeter, a university which has no compunction about allowing rapist students to return to campus at the detriment of the wellbeing of the female student concerned.

Oh yes had forgotten that was them Angry

newbingepisodes · 06/03/2020 20:40

What an absolute load of utter bollocks! No wonder this world is fucked!

ChateauMyself · 06/03/2020 20:59

A mainstream work environment is not going to be ‘kind’ for some of these youngsters.

GodwinsRulebook · 07/03/2020 15:07

You couldn't pay me enough to work in that place. But it's also naive to assume this kind of toxic, anti-female rhetoric isn't permeating other universities, too. Sadly, it is

And most universities have informal, fairly secret networks of feminists who support brave women like Dr Poen. We speak in whispers at the end of meetings, and use a bit of a code to see if it's safe to say what we really think.

Universities are going to have to bite the bullet about whether they will allow students to try to bully academic staff for having opinions. Are university lecturers allowed to have views on, say, transubstantiation or the US elections?

Dr Poen teaches mathematics I think, and one might well ask, what impact any political view could have on her use of stats and facts & figures ...

Most university exams are anonymous and double marked. Unless her whole department is virulently opposed to anyone being trans, her opinions of women and biological reality are highly unlikely to be detrimental to her students. I'm guessing they're mostly male students anyway.

But I imagine she could do with some support on Twitter or via her university. Universities do take notice of parents of students or prospective students hint hint If you wanted to support academics in situations like Dr Peon.

7Days · 07/03/2020 23:49

Ive been thinking more and more about generational divides.
Is a lot of this bullshit to do with age, do you think?
Young women pander to men. I know, I know, naywalt, but generally speaking.

Its daft, but a bit of a growing stage. And lots of men (namalt, for equality's sake) take advantage of it.

That would be a contained problem if there wasn't such a cult of youth.
Millenials v boomers. Listen to the voices of the young people. Mid century invention of the Teenager, followed closely by teens having ready cash and a brand new market to be exploited, pandering to their tastes, their natural dissatisfaction at older people, embrace of novelty. Social media is dominated by young people, which is understandable.

Theres a phrase, What's Rare Is Marvellous. In an ageing world, where there are more old people than there are resources to care for them, and a world and lifestyle that's changing so rapidly there is not much respect for older viewpoints. Old people are not rare, nor is . It's not like a 70 year old grandad is a rare treasure, who knows every stone on the land, and the highest point in the river happened when he were a lad.
You see on mn how new mothers dismiss their own mothers and grandmothers advice. So many mores have changed.

The new mothers and modern contract workers are not wrong. Knowledge is advancing at a rapid pace. People dont live the small farmer life anymore and we're doing better for it, on the whole.

But it's a big huge societal shift. It plays out in all sorts of ways.

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