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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Remember that bloke walking a woman on a lead in Glasgow?

44 replies

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 05/03/2020 07:52

Well...

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/dog-leash-pervert-snapped-teen-21617816.amp?__twitter_impression=true

The warped 32-year-old sex predator – who says he now 'controls' 17 women as part of a Puppyplay fetish – was previously jailed for four years for having sex with two young girls.

The 18-year-old woman pictured with him said she was aware he had convictions for paedophile offences.

Speaking in front of him, she said: “He’s not a horrible person like people are making him out to be. I forgive him for it all.”

This is just horrific. He was stopped by the police in Glasgow, but just for a chat. It appears that public fetishes are very much acceptable. Personally speaking, I think fetishes are for private not public. And I worry about that poor teenager Sad

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 05/03/2020 09:15

Can we find the original AIBU thread , where so very many tried to say this was all innocent fun?

I don't care if not all people with fetishes are in any way odd... the public parading of a kink takes it to a heightened level of exhibitionism and I do not consent to partaking in someone elses public sexual gratification.

It's much the same of those naturists who choose to walk in bisy non naturist places. They are NOT naturists, they are naked fetishists.... Naturists don't need an audience!

definitelygc · 05/03/2020 09:21

The way I see it the parading around in public is part of the domination. It's one thing to be controlled and degraded behind closed doors, it's another level of humiliation to do it out in public.

I think it's important that we don't victim blame the girls who've got caught up in this. It's natural that the first thought would be "what's wrong with them? why don't they leave?" but the reality is that the human brain is incredibly vulnerable to manipulation. The same thing could happen to any of us. I never thought it could happen to me but it did.

Herja · 05/03/2020 09:25

There's a corrections and clarifications bit for that paper. I am going to send in a request that 'sex' is changed to 'rape' in the case mentioned here. Because, well, that's exactly what it was. I hope some of you might join me in requesting this correction.

Heshehe · 05/03/2020 09:27

Oh at least we’ve found someone who can lead the puppy parade at Glasgow Pride this year! How dare you all kink shame!

In plain sight.

Lordfrontpaw · 05/03/2020 09:28

It’s involving all around in your little ‘thang’. No thanks, I’m not and extra in your role play!

womanaf · 05/03/2020 09:37

But how do they know she’s a woman dressed as a dog and not a cis dog? Did they check her chromosomes? If she says she’s a dog she’s a dog. #nodebate #myidentityisminetodefine #othertwitterbollocks

Needmoresleep · 05/03/2020 09:37

The problem with exhibitionism is that it forces the unconsenting public to be part of the fetish display.

And not a million miles from the apparent desire by people like Yaniv to use ladies loos, so they can again co-opt women into a fantasy about instructing how to insert tampons etc.

Consenting adults...in private...

Anything else and you are using, thus potentially abusing, others. The people who called the police because they were concerned, the mum who has to find a suitable explanation for their children, te abuse survivor who is triggered, the social conservative who is offended.

Do Stonewall supporting LGBs, or transexuals quietly living their lives, want to be linked with, and assumed to be supporting, this kind of fetishistic, exhibitionist behaviour?

Herja · 05/03/2020 09:40

This is what I've just sent to the clarifications and corrections section:

To whom it may concern,
In a news story I read today, dated March 3rd
('Warped pervert pictured walking teen on dog leash in Glasgow unmasked as child sex beast')
The story mentions that the man in question has been prosecuted for crimes including 'having sex with a 12 year old'. I would like to clarify if 'having sex'with the 12 year old was in fact statutory rape, or a child abuse prosecution?

As far as I'm aware, these are the laws that this crime comes under. If so, they should be named as such. A 12 year old cannot consent to sex; they can only be raped. 'Sex' suggests consent; if this man has raped a child, this should not be disguised with the suggestion of consent.
Best wishes,

It's nice to see someone calling him out on being a weirdo, but that sex is rape and should be called such.

OhHolyJesus · 05/03/2020 10:40

Thanks Herja I will do the same.

Glasgow Pride is a registered charity and should have a safeguarding policy (Notting Hill Parade has one and it covers the staff and volunteers but doesn't list how they will protect attendees).

This unarmed man would fit right in wouldn't he, even if he isn't charged and convicted he would remain a person of interest with the Glasgow Police...how do Pride organisers protect children and vulnerable adults from people like this, given that Pride is so family friendly?

Shall we ask them?

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stillathing · 05/03/2020 10:49

Shame - there’s a word we maybe need to bring back!

Sadly the patriarchy got there first with "kink shaming". An offence only second to misgendering I expect.

Unless it's same sex attraction we're talking about in which case - yeurch - away with your genital fetish.

OhHolyJesus · 05/03/2020 11:01

*Unknown (not unarmed although he is unarmed as well obviously)

andyoldlabour · 05/03/2020 11:07

Sex is something you enjoy with a consenting adult, the Daily Record should be ashamed of themselves. This man raped a 12 year old child.
What has the World come to, that any of this is acceptable?

BustedWench · 05/03/2020 11:39

He raped a child
Walks round with an 18 year old girl on a lead in broad daylight
Is 14 YEARS older than her

I think we can all be confident something very illegal is taking place behind closed doors.

In plain fucking sight

Lordfrontpaw · 05/03/2020 11:47

Where abouts in Glasgow was this?

SapphireSeptember · 05/03/2020 12:48

This is so wrong. People parading their kinks for the world to see are involving non-consenting adults and minors in it and that's not okay. It's a huge issue in the lolita community (the one involving frilly dresses and tea parties, not anything dodgy) because people get the wrong idea about what said community is about.
People who didn't get the 'safe, sane and consensual' memo when it comes to BDSM have something wrong with them. People who do this kind of thing in public need to be arrested.
Add in that this guy has raped children and it just makes the whole thing so much worse, why the hell is he involved with a 17 year old?

Janie143 · 05/03/2020 14:11

Also, I used to think that what consenting adults did in their bedroom was no one else's business. And these days, knowing what I do about coercive relationships, I'm not even sure that I think that way any more. Someone can have consented, but like the poster upthread the only reason they have consented is because someone else has spent a long time manipulating them into consenting
That's exactly what happened to me. O didn't even realize it until I was helped by Women's Aid and did the Freedom course

AutumnRose1 · 05/03/2020 15:06

“ The problem with exhibitionism is that it forces the unconsenting public to be part of the fetish display.”

That’s my issue with it. I don’t want kink on display when I’m out for a run.

There used to be a fetish club next door to a bar I went to. At 11pm, seeing them in the queue, I didn’t mind. But if that extends to the daytime then I feel like those clubs should have to provide changing rooms.

I do think consenting adults in private can do what they want, but I’d like to see some kind of standard set for public behaviour.

AutumnRose1 · 05/03/2020 15:08

There was often a guy with a guy on a lead in the queue, to be fair. I guess it just seemed different in a nightclub queue.

Iggypoppie · 05/03/2020 15:43

@Lordfrontpaw I think it was Cathcart, Southside.

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