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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I'm leaving the Labour party. Should I re-join the WEP?

15 replies

lawn · 04/03/2020 10:55

I'm a gender-critical feminist who believes in the Nordic model for prostituted women.

The WEP seems fairly sound on the latter, but I can't make sense of their stance on gender issues. Does anyone know what their current policies are?

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BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 04/03/2020 11:06

Frying-pan into the fire. Join this party if you agree with members being expelled for questioning gender identity. Ask Rebecca Reilly-Cooper

lawn · 04/03/2020 11:11

Thought as much, hadn't kept up with that one (too many women being expelled from everything everywhere).

So there's no party for us then. As I suspected. Great.

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BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 04/03/2020 11:16

We are politically homeless, Do we have to wait until the Labour Party get their heads out of their arses? I fear it will be a very, very long wait

LangClegTheBeardedVulture · 04/03/2020 11:18

WEP needs to be burnt to the ground. They're worse than useless. The TRA got in on the first day and have been very efficient at destroying the party from the inside, ensuring it is completely ineffective.

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jadefinch · 04/03/2020 11:20

Every now and again I stumble across the WEP's current leader's tweets and it's always: TWAW.

It also strikes me as a dying party after its European election results last year (polled less than The Yorkshire Party and The Animal Welfare Party), which meant it barely stood anywhere at the General Election

lawn · 04/03/2020 11:22

So depressing.

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Manderleyagain · 04/03/2020 19:09

Wep haven't got an official stance on the gender identity issue, they are supposed to be doing a consultation asking members input but they seem to have kicked it into the long grass.

The way they treated Heather b e was crapola, but I haven't seen any twaw from the current leader recently. Was that her position in the past?

Sophie walker (now at young women's Trust) is now pretty much out gc.

TheRealMcKenna · 04/03/2020 19:14

Social Democrat Party?

JeebusWEPt · 04/03/2020 22:20

[blows dust off topical name change]

They had one job. One job.

Mner2000 · 04/03/2020 23:27

I left the Green Party partly over their uselessness re women’s rights (also some other annoyances with the local party), joined WEP hoping they were moving towards GC... have now left WEP (frustrated with their complete absence of a stance) and now giving money to FairPlay for women...

Strangerthantruth · 04/03/2020 23:38

WEP promised to consult members on the GRA but just keep finding reasons not to and now Mandu Reid has been parachuted in as leader without any party members involment it seems like a stitch up. Mandu featured on a judging panel last year organised by Diva magazine which gave an award to Dr Adrian Harrop.

She's now standing for London mayor so I get the impression WEP is just a temporary jumping off point for her, something more interesting will come along soon. It's becoming a shell organisation that simply pays for a few office staff with a few tweets now and again about women's issues.

It's a shame really, they are squatting in a space where something good could have happened.

Lynda07 · 04/03/2020 23:44

WEP - Wired Equivalent Privacy?

mindtheclegs · 04/03/2020 23:48

OP I voted Labour for 30 years until their leaders recently disclosed they had played truant whilst Human Biology was being taught at primary school.

So I've joined the Conservative party. Family and friends are aghast. But I see the only way to change policy is from the inside. Is there an equivalent to the current 4 Tory House of Lords / Baronesses fighting for women's spaces in the Labour Party? No, they're all too spineless.

Tories don't seem to give much of a shit about climate change - which is why I've never voted for them. But I've shrugged off the pain of joining them now because I work 50 hours a week as a scientist in the environmental management sector. I do my bit there.

Women and girls are important and I'll stand by any party that does not want to erase them.

Lord Lucas I hope you are listening :-)

JeebusWEPt · 05/03/2020 00:33

It's a shame really, they are squatting in a space where something good could have happened.

Women’s Equivocating Placeholder

Cwenthryth · 05/03/2020 01:20

I skipped the other way Grin WEP is absolutely nowhere on fighting for women’s sex-based rights, sadly. There was a gender critical fringe network around conference in 2018, a motion that would have been unequivocally TWAW was not put to a vote in the end and sent back to steering committee to consult on; this has so far not happened - hence I don’t see the point in supporting them any more. I was active, canvassed for council elections and all sorts. But there no point if the central cabal can’t even be bothered to follow conference’s directions and carry out a consultation. I personally strongly believe this was a major factor in why Sophie Walker jumped ship.

So I’ve joined labour, starting to get involved at CLP and will support the labour women’s declaration. For me it is bigger picture long game now. I can support more focused campaign groups outside of my political party; I can lobby within it on issues important to me (which are wider than women’s rights) but bigger picture we need an effective Labour Party in order to get anything other than a Tory government, and I don’t think abandoning Labour to the extreme left & students is the way to go - if that happens, we’ll have the Tories forever.

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