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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transgender shoplifter spared jail when there is ‘no way to confirm her gender’

12 replies

Hugtheduggee · 03/03/2020 17:56

metro.co.uk/2020/02/27/transgender-shoplifter-spared-jail-no-way-confirm-gender-12314791/

Not sure how to make clicky. Given that prisoners are strip searched on arriving at prison, how does this make sense.

Or is being trans a get out of jail free card now?

OP posts:
ListeningQuietly · 03/03/2020 18:05

Insane for no other reason than that the individual has over 40 prior convictions.

CodenameVillanelle · 03/03/2020 18:10

Being trans is literally a get out of jail free card. Last week a violent robber was sentenced to jail then released because they didn't have a GRC and for some reason couldn't be sent to a male prison Hmm

AlunWynsKnee · 03/03/2020 18:16

It's the same one Villanelle

StandWithYou · 03/03/2020 18:22

It’s great and I hope more of this happens - nothing will annoy the public more then criminals getting away with it. Unfortunately at some point someone will be hurt as a result of this and it will result in a backlash and ‘something’ being done. It will also hurt genuine dysphoric people who just want to live their lives and not impact on others.

CodenameVillanelle · 03/03/2020 18:23

Oh ok I didn't think someone who threatened a shopkeeper with a claw hammer would be described as a 'shoplifter'

Thisismytimetoshine · 03/03/2020 18:28

Their gender is completely irrelevant. They’ll all be at this now Confused.

But I identify as a bullfrog, your honour, do you have special provision for bullfrogs?
Eh, no. Never mind, be on your way so. NEXT.

BritneyPeedOnALadybug · 03/03/2020 18:31

I’ve always been abiding by the law but now I know I don’t have to, I might start living on the dangerous side of life and if I go to court, I will just simply self-identify as not guilty.

GloGirl · 03/03/2020 18:52

Wut?! Confused

ListeningQuietly · 03/03/2020 19:10

All his names listed in this report
www.brightonandhovenews.org/2020/02/26/hammer-wielding-brighton-shoplifter-jailed-for-terrifying-assault/

ListeningQuietly · 03/03/2020 19:11

Surely if the police have his fingerprints from previous crimes
and there is no evidence of a GRC
he goes to male prison ?

PreseaCombatir · 03/03/2020 19:25

This a fucking outrage

R0wantrees · 03/03/2020 21:52

from article in OP

"Leila Le Fey, 40, admitted brandishing the weapon at shop manager Enoch Adetayo after entering a Budgens store in Brighton in a bid to steal wine at 4am on November 6 last year. She was sentenced to six months in prison, but this order was reversed when Judge Stephen Mooney heard that she did not have certified evidence of her gender reassignment and would have to be sent to a male-only jail. The only way Le Fey could ‘prove’ her new gender would be an ‘undignified examination’, which court staff were not prepared to do, her barrister Rebecca Upton said at Lewes Crown Court.
The shoplifter would not be kept in solitary confinement and would be vulnerable in this situation, she added. (continues)

Judge Mooney said ‘issues had arisen’ and acknowledged that ‘we live in a society which acknowledges and embraces diversity and allows and encourages people to live the life they want to’.
He continued: ‘Sometimes society does not make the necessary or appropriate adjustments in all ways it can to reflect the adjustments of society as a whole. “Having reflected again upon the impact an immediate custodial sentence would have, the difficulties there are and the intractable problems the prison service would face, I have reconsidered whether imprisonment must be immediate.’

metro.co.uk/2020/02/27/transgender-shoplifter-spared-jail-no-way-confirm-gender-12314791/?ito=cbshare

Presumably such a decision will only apply to males who identify as transgender found guilty of sentences usually requiring prison sentences since females who identify as transgender are housed in the female estate for their safety?

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