France is getting it...

[Mockersisrightasusual]

...lentement

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51684494

A shame so many media outlets are repeating the 'alleged' lie about this convicted sex offender.

I am full of respect for the women who did this, especially Adele Haenel who is reported to be the first actress to get up and leave.

Me too. Wonder what Emma Thompson would have done - she’s always terribly keen to be on the right side of history but manages to choose the wrong side fairly often

France and Poland have behaved despicably over RP and refusing to send him back to the USA to be sentenced. The false 'alleged' narrative is adopted and the shit gets away with it.

Clive James nails him. Go to 38.50 if you can stomach it.

What is this "alleged" shit? He was convicted.

Court cases in France and Poland have failed because he claims it would be an extradition and not a rendition of an absconded convicted fugitive.

Scum.

I'd never seen that before, Mockers
It's so disturbing to watch. He openly confesses it so easily because he's convinced what he did was and should be acceptable.

Repellent, paedophilie abuser.
I wish someone would project soundclips from that interview everywhere that evil man goes.
I knew she was thirteen because she talked about her birthday.
I like young girls.
It went too far.
Some states have the age of consent of twelve.
If you saw her sitting next to me you'd think it was normal.

How can anyone bear to be in his presence, let alone agree to work with him, or honour him? What a sick society we live in.

And the lining himself up for comparison with Dreyfus is not exactly subtle.

Have watched some of the interview. He genuinely thinks it's the norm for men to want that, right?
I hope he is wrong.

I find him utterly repellant in that video, but what is to be done with someone like this? He should have been put on trial in the States, but it doesn't look like that's ever going to happen. I don't think he should be honoured at all, but should he be prevented from making films completely? I ask this very reluctantly as a fan of his work, and for discussion rather than to defend or put forward a case. I really don't want to be insensitive to anyone who's been through this kind of abuse, and I admire the actresses for walking out, but when it comes to barring someone who's a creative genius from their profession I don't know what the answer is, and I don't think the industry does either.

He should have been put on trial in the States

He was. Found guilty, he asked for bail pending sentencing because he had a film to finish. He never came back.

He should have been imprisoned as per his conviction.

Instead he ran away.

He drugged and anally raped a 14yo.

There isn't much of s grey area there.

I'm clearly not saying there's a grey area, I'm asking what should be done with him.

From the BBC article.

"The decision to honour Polanski at this year's awards had angered feminist groups"

The BBC do not have a clue, do they. The Polanski affair angers any right minded person, the fact that he is walking around free.

And it was all calculated and planned. He agreed a guilty plea to a lesser charge the equivalent of 'sexual activity with a child' rather than rape to avoid the need for the victim to give evidence. (It was all very awkward. The mother had pimped her out in the hope of getting a part.)

He was good as gold throughout the trial, then put in his request for bail.

He's been lauded and honoured in France ever since, and now the Catholic Conservative govt. (wtf?) are joining in.

There's a number of cases in France right now on this theme, so it looks like the worm is finally turning.

'I find him utterly repellant in that video, but what is to be done with someone like this? He should have been put on trial in the States'

He was though, convicted and given a jail term that he absconded from.

He is a criminal on the run.

You say it seems wrong to stop him being honoured for his creative genius etc.

Jimmy saville is never on the telly now, he was never convicted. As a result we only get the two old episodes of TOTP! not saying he was a creative genius obv but he was very popular, is it right to erase him from our screens even though no conviction?

What do YOU think should happen then.

...Catholic Conservative Polish govt.

He should be extradited to the US for sentencing and jail time. That's what should happen to him.

The French do not extradite their citizens to anywhere. Full stop.

In such cases, the normal state of affairs would be to put him on trial in France, but since he has already been tried and convicted, that is not possible either.

The only alternative is extraordinary rendtion, but that has a bad name these days.

I would no more ban his films than I would ban the Phil Spector Christmas CD, but we can do without showering the shit with honours.

The old films exist and should be allowed to continue to do so, but I really see no reason why he should be allowed to continue making them given that he should be in jail.

The question that I think is being danced around is whether anyone should support him in continuing to make new films, which would include supporting that via paying to see said films as well as supporting his career more directly by working with him, giving him awards, etc. My answer would be "no", and the fact that he's outright fawned over by both the film industry and critics despite everyone knowing perfectly well what he did says all kinds of things (that women and girls don't matter, that sexual violence is just to be expected, that "genius" somehow overrides everything and is so important that if someone is deemed to have it then keeping them out of jail is in the public interest, etc).

And yes, there are lots of men in that industry who've harmed women and girls, but the specific details of Polanski's case and the fact that he's continued to victimize women and girls ever since puts him into a category that's less sleazy creep who keeps grabbing his costars arses and more Harvey Weinstein.

What I'm saying is, he's not just a creep, he's a predator with a trail of documented predation that goes back decades. He is never going to change, and he has already left many victims in his wake. How many is too many, if the one he was convicted of drugging and raping wasn't enough?

Frogs I've said EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what you claim I have, I said he SHOULDN'T be honoured. I realize this is a sensitive subject but it's not helpful to utterly misrepresent what I'm saying to try and make a point, and I don't think we're on opposite sides here in any case, as I'm asking a question rather than defending anyone. I'm sure we can all agree Polanski should do time for what he did. My question relates to how society should manage artists who have committed crimes like this in terms of their body of work. For example, Paul Gauguin was a pedophile, Picasso was abhorrent in his treatment of women, so what should we do with their work now? Should it be removed from galleries? As for Polanski, as he is unlikely ever to be sent to jail, I'm asking if he should be allowed to have a career, and if that could even be prevented? I'm looking for a practical solution.

'I'm sure we can all agree Polanski should do time for what he did'

You still seem to be missing the point that he was tried, convicted, sentenced to a jail term and absconded.

We don't all have to agree it, a judge mandated it decades ago.

And he's still alive now and just got an award.

Stick to the case in point rather than talking about men long dead who were never convicted.

What do you think should happen

Frogs you seem to be having an argument with yourself. Yes, I'm aware he was found guilty, and as such he should do time. I'm not missing anything, what point are you trying to make?

I don't know what should happen, that's why I'm asking, and I think it's important to relate this to other artists even if those men are dead, because I don't think the arts industries know what to do either. For me as someone who appreciates the art of these men I also feel uncomfortable thinking about how they have treated women. I don't like the thought of Polanski making a profit but at the same time enjoy his work and think he's a genius, so it's unsettling.