Zuby

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Zuby (the bloke who identified as a woman whilst lifting weights to take the women's deadlifting record) has been suspended from Twitter. This was because he said "ok dude" to an Antifa activist...

Anyway, this has caused a bit of a backlash towards Twitter. This may be a good thing for GC feminists as they're always getting banned for far less.

There is in fact a whole thread about the use of ‘guys’ on AIBU with most posters refusing to even acknowledge that it’s gendered speech. Guess how much reporting and cancelling for misgendering happened on that thread - oh yes, none.

Emily G has repeatedly and consistently called for violence against women on Twitter and never been banned.

Zuby says 'OK dude' and is immediately given a 12 hour suspension.

Wft is wrong with Dude?? Are women not allowed to use a word that infers 'coolness' about themselves? Do we have to add 'ess' or 'ette' to every word now??
Dudette? The Dudess of Dudington.

Duck would be fine, but not drake.

Someone on that thread put “no one will defend you when it’s your turn to be censored”. I don’t think the penny has dropped quite yet for some.

If anyone has a spare 3 hours, I’d really suggest watching this video. It gives a great insight into how the Twitter ‘healthy conversations’ policy works and doesn’t work. The wokestazi at Twitter operate in their own little bubble of correct-speak and woe betide anyone who steps out of line. It’s like Sweden.

Zuby has some views that I completely disagree with, but so does Owen Jones. Why should one voice be silenced? It doesn’t make for ‘healthy conversation’ at all.

Antifa are the exact opposite of what they claim to be.

I agree. If you try and shut down the voices of others, the same silencing mechanisms will come for you eventually. Zuby’s view on marriage and abortion is no different to my dad’s. old fashioned, unrealistic, sexist. Not criminal.

According to the 🥝 ‘s EG likes firearms, so obviously they like the 2nd Amendment, if not the 1st.

There is in fact a whole thread about the use of ‘guys’ on AIBU with most posters refusing to even acknowledge that it’s gendered speech. Guess how much reporting and cancelling for misgendering happened on that thread - oh yes, none.

Wow. ‘Guy’ is a boys name, for starters! It’s clearly gendered, or at least it was. In current day use it’s like ‘dude’ and people use it for both, although that surely stems from men being the default humans?

I have no desire to police the casual language of others, that’s surely the first step into a purity spiral (plus I like regional, cultural and historical dialects!) but I value thinking about how language is used and how it relates to social order.

Thinking about British gendered terms of endearment on the school walk just now, i suddenly remembered ‘me ol’ cocker’ and had a little chuckle to myself in the rain.

I quite like Zuby. He has conservative views and he doesn't know women as well as he thinks he does, but he often makes me laugh and he's thoughtful and (from what I've seen) always polite.
In any case, whether you like him or not, if he's been suspended for the reason given then that's bloody terrifying.

In any case, whether you like him or not, if he's been suspended for the reason given then that's bloody terrifying.

‘Deadnaming’ and ‘deliberately misgendering’ are considered hate speech by Twitter. They have a ‘3 strikes and you’re off forever’ rule, which is also terrifying considering what you can get a ‘strike’ for.

Pronoun Enforcer is now (understandably) receiving a hell of a lot of abuse on Twitter and is blaming it on Andy Ngo and his followers. Pot. Kettle. Black.

‘She’ is the very definition of the term Cry Bully.

Incidentally I do think words matter - we use them to think - and I object sometimes to language and explain why, which has got me into arguments. It's the enforcing that's chilling.

He's off the naughty-step and unapologetic....

He does love a marketing opportunity! Haha.

It’s like Sweden

Is it like Sweden? Are they weird about disallowed ideas there?

I presumed the Sweden reference was to Tim Pool going there to prove one of the hosts of InfoWars wrong and interviewed local people being told he couldn’t go to some of the places he wanted to vista. Neither the left nor the right had a real picture of what was happening there, because average Swedish people felt unable to speak freely and it was allowing space for commentators to fill in gaps in the narrative to suit their agenda.
A sort of real life echo chamber situation, where the loudest voices are from the two extreme points. I watched the video a while back, so I might have messed up the details from memory.
I think it was a bit of a turning point for Pool who had started out documenting Occupy Wall Street and associating with the left and now he calls himself a left leaning centrist and mostly critiques the problems he observes on the left (because he wants it to be better, but of course he gets branded Alt Right, due to the with us or against us culture war stuff).

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/mashable.com/2017/03/01/tim-pool-sweden-investigation.amp

Pool was one of the few external commentators who understood the first Get The L Out protest immediately. That’s when I started paying attention to him.

He gets a bit repetitive in some of his solo videos but he’s started interviewing people himself and those seem promising.

Is it like Sweden? Are they weird about disallowed ideas there?

In a word, yes. DuLANGMondeFOREVER summed it up perfectly.