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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

New Gender Equality Task Force set up by Scottish Government

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ScotTaskForce · 25/02/2020 12:01

news.stv.tv/scotland/taskforce-to-end-gender-stereotyping-in-schools-set-to-meet?top

Anyone else seen this? Apologies if it's been discussed before.

Co-chaired by John Swinney and Razzanah Hussain. So we have the word 'gender' rather than sex but we'll just assume (hopefully?) that this is down to the squeamishness of using the word 'sex' in an early years and school setting rather than any conflation of the terms (but yes, it provides lots of room for annoying conflation)

Its aims certainly seem good - Razzanah Hussain said ahead of its first meeting this week that its ambition was:

“to ensure that girls and young women have a gender-equal experience of education and learning... Ms Hussain added that this was a “fundamental part of achieving a gender-equal Scotland, which will benefit everyone... She said: “It is essential that young women like me, and the others on the taskforce, have direct input in this way. Developing policy informed by lived experience is the best way to create a fairer Scotland...We know young women and girls are significantly more likely to be disadvantaged by gender inequality while at school, leading to issues later in life, and the taskforce will help inform how we reduce the impact of this.”

If this taskforce is going to do its job properly NONE of the LGBT Youth Scotland literature that equates being 'gender non-conforming' with being transgender (see image attached from the Guidance) should have a place in our schools. We know that its Guidance was supposed to have been withdrawn from schools but a statement on the LGBTYS site states:
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"“The guidance produced by LGBT Youth Scotland, in conjunction with the Scottish Trans Alliance, has not been withdrawn and remains available... The guidance is already being used in schools and education authorities across Scotland as it provides practical advice to support them to respond positively to meet the needs of their pupils. It is one of a number of tools which help education authorities and schools to prevent discrimination of pupils.”

The Scottish Government plan to update our guidance by the end of this year, working closely with us and other key stakeholders. This will ensure that there is consistent practice in schools across Scotland."
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But if the Task Force is to make a true impact surely any notion of restrictive gender stereotypes dictating whether you are a boy or a girl should be thrown out the window? Any notion of Pink brain and Blue brain? Let's hope that this Task Force isn't hijacked by any of this type of thinking.

Whilst there is much in the LGBTYS Guidance that is common-sense and positive (respectful behaviours that should be fostered in a school environment as a matter of course to combat any prejudice and bullying) there is much in it that will entirely contradict attempts to create true equality of opportunity. If the aim is to encourage young girls, and create a safe learning environment within schools, then this Task Force needs to make it crystal clear that sex does not equal gender stereotypes.

I'm thinking of writing to Joan McAlpine, Joanna Cherry and John Swinney to implore them to give this Task Force teeth and make it work for the young women of Scotland.

I'm sure some of you will be more knowledgeable about the LGBTYS guidance and the efforts some groups like Transgender Trend have made to counter it. I just wanted to flag up the formation of this Task Force on this board in case anyone else wanted to get in touch with some members of the Scottish Government or in case others didn't know about it. And of course, if anyone knows any more about it, then please share!

New Gender Equality Task Force set up by Scottish Government
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rogdmum · 25/02/2020 12:07

Please do write. The LGBT Youth Scotland guidance is still very much in force and it appears to be the same suspects involved in drafting the new guidance from the SG. My daughter’s school is in thrall to LGBT Youth Scotland (her Year Head formally transitioned her to a boy behind our backs- told her 17 year old brother bit not us and when we found out, told us we had no say. We have a temporary reprieve, but it has been made clear that any push back from her and they will default back to the guidance).

I’ll write as well.

ScotTaskForce · 25/02/2020 12:28

rogdmum I have read about your situation on here and my heart goes out to you and my blood boils on your behalf. I hope you are getting some support from people to fight this?

Interesting what you say about the same suspects being involved in drafting the new Guidance. How depressing if they aren't involving other groups who have different ideas and knowledge. I wonder if there will be any kick-back against LGBTYS because they are unequivocally supporting the actions of the Head Teacher at Glencoats PS? They agree that the drag artist was an entirely suitable person to instill positive LGBT values in 5-12 year olds and that Mhari Black is totally right even when she shouts 'homophobia/transphobia' to anyone who thinks a misogynistic adult-entertainer is a great gay role-model? And also when Renfrew council have had to apologise and agree it was a huge error of judgement? How is LGBTYS's response the action of a reputable charity that is in receipt of thousands of pounds of Scottish Government funding and that then earns thousands of pounds for charging cash-strapped schools for its advice and LGBTYS Charter status?

Glad you're going to write to them too. I'll get onto it now and will post any responses I receive.

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Michelleoftheresistance · 25/02/2020 12:36

There is no such thing as gender inequality.

Your pay is not affected by the length of your hair, the height of your heels and your personal dress choices.

You are not at risk of FMG due to your colour preference.

You are not likely to be murdered at a rate of 2-3 per week because of your enjoyment of cooking and shopping by humans who like football and beer.

This nonsense is anti-woman and makes the whole agenda pointless in the name of being pro-male.

Michelleoftheresistance · 25/02/2020 12:40

Not to mention of course, if you're the kind of twit who believes in 'gender equality' then you need to take into account however many genders we're now up to.

Please, someone, explain how the Scots govt plan to ensure the equality of fern gendered people, frost gendered people and goliath gendered people? What about otherkin? How exactly is that going to work? What inequalities exactly do they face that are recognised in law?

CharlieParley · 25/02/2020 12:46

Sorry to say the use of gender is deliberate and not an avoidance of sex on account of being prudish but on account of being utterly captured.

And while the LGBT Youth Scotland guidance may superficially look like it aims to foster positive behaviours, as it frames girls' needs to single-sex spaces transphobic and disrespectful and breaches 11 articles of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child as well as the Equality Act and directly goes against "Getting It Right For Every Child", the safeguarding framework used in Scottish schools, it's about as horrendous as it can get.

Nothing coming out of the Scottish Government right now on sex equality can be taken at face value. If you have doubts about any initiative, it may have a lot to do with the fact that something like this task force cannot succeed while the same government is re-infororcing sex stereotypes and sex role stereotypes by teaching transgender ideology in schools.

ScotTaskForce · 25/02/2020 13:13

Yeah... gender equality is meaningless when the number of genders is seemingly infinite. But we’ve got to try to hold them to the importance of ‘sex’ don’t we? Even if they think they can get away with fudging the issue through language. We have to know what THEY mean by gender and get them to spell it out. Are they setting out to help young women and girls or nit? That’s the question.

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