Sophie Lewis article.

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I’ll just leave this here.
I don’t really know what to say right now.

www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/qjdzwb/sophie-lewis-feminist-abolishing-the-family-full-surrogacy-now?__twitter_impression=true

I don’t know if it’s clickable?

It's clickable from the app.
Er... sounds like she's trying to reinvent the commune, maybe on a larger scale.

It’s so fundamentally extreme and I don’t think this benefits feminism as it goes from equal playing field to quite exclusive to those with reproductive value. It also undermines a women’s role as Mother IMO.
Ok the nuclear family is quite a trad view, but to cull the entire definition of family seems quite abhorrent to me.
I had a wonderful Dad and My partner values me as his equal. My two sons are also very much feminists and they are MY SONS. I get the ‘it takes a village’ thinking but I gave birth to my boys and they are forever connected to me biologically, from toddler to adult to beyond.
I feel like a lot of her concepts undermine our roles as Mother.

‘At the same time, the “open-source, fully collaborative gestation” she imagines remains on a distant horizon.’

I understand that she’s trying to broaden out mother to mean anyone who ever cared for anyone, and surrogate to mean anyone who ever cared for anyone is carrying out useful labour.

But you can’t share gestation. You either get pregnant and carry out that task or you don’t. It can’t be shared. You either accept that actual mothers exist and need a whole set of rights to protect them, especially during pregnancy, or you sidestep the issue by using the words mother and surrogate to mean some vague thing you just made up.

Women who have any choice in the matter get pregnant almost always because they want a relationship with their own child. The whole article is about what she gets or doesn’t get from being someone’s child, despite being in her thirties. There is absolutely nothing in it about what her mother got out of being a mother.

Maybe the article misrepresents the book.

Read some of if then gave up before my brain melted.

Woman will still be the ones doing all the bloody pregnancy/birth stuff regardless of who parents the children so what difference does pretending we have a choice make.

She use’s the term SERF. Surrogate exclusionary radical feminist.

People on here have pointed out before how genderism was just a stepping stone on the way to promoting surrogacy.

This article summarises her arguments better than the Vice one.

www.societyandspace.org/articles/introducing-full-surrogacy-now

Thanks for posting OP as I found it interesting to read even though I thought it was an absolute load of tosh

That's not a type of feminism that I would support.

People think they can reimagine things like parenthood, and the reality will change, the social structures will change.

Well, no, parenthood won't change that much because it's based on a biological relation. There is a certain amount of flexibility around family arrangements, but there are very clear patterns that fall around these sorts of biological relations.

It makes me think of the fate of the kibbutz style children's houses.