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Free speech is for everyone

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BovaryX · 21/02/2020 06:54

Jodie Ginsberg, from Index on Censorship, has a good opinion piece in The Times. She writes that freedom of speech is under increasing threat in the West from activists who expect self censorship and #no debate to enforce their authoritarian views. This echoes Justice Knowles' comments about freedom of speech applying to statements more contentious than kittens are fluffy

The assertion that “I believe in free speech, but . . .” has become depressingly familiar. It is a line that has fuelled a new type of censorship, one in which a big part of expression is labelled as “not free speech”, in other words expression that is not worthy of protection, whether that be through an ever-widening definition of what constitutes hateful speech, or state-backed regulation of online platforms. This modern censorship works by labelling some views as unacceptable and in so doing ends up depriving us of social discourse. If we label everything we dislike as fake news or as hate speech we stifle vital debate. The toxic discussion over sex and gender is proof of that

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Lordfrontpaw · 21/02/2020 08:08

Free speech - not for us though. Wrong sex/gender I’m afraid.

Languishingfemale · 21/02/2020 08:13

Their leader column focuses on this and makes reference to Fair Cop. They also have several articles about the Arts and some awful censorship of anyone not on the left and anti Brexit here:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bff17d70-53d5-11ea-b4ee-385bb4c8d255?shareToken=4ed8d2e2fe399e6a4174eacbda840ba8

mement0mori · 21/02/2020 08:33

The assertion that “I believe in free speech, but . . .” has become depressingly familiar

This is so common now. It basically means I should have the freedom to speak because I am correct on this issue. It’s authoritarian.

JellySlice · 21/02/2020 08:45

To paraphrase Andrea Dworkin:

Free speech is a political practice of fighting for freedom of thought and expression on behalf of all people, including all the people you don't like, including all the people you don't want to be around, including all the people who used to be your best friends whom you don't want anything to do with anymore. It doesn't matter who the individual people are.

Lordfrontpaw · 21/02/2020 08:46

‘The assertion that “I believe in free speech, but . ..’

When I trained as a therapist there was a phrase one tutor used to use - it’s all bushier before the ‘but’

ArranUpsideDown · 21/02/2020 10:58

Free speech is for everyone.

Fact-checking said speech from elected officials and people with some degree of authority or public office is a legitimate activity. I am concerned that Twitter is launching a technology around this that will become a fact-free bunfight as they're relying upon self-appointed volunteers without agreed standards.

The leaked demo features bright red and orange badges for tweets that have been deemed “harmfully misleading,” in nearly the same size as the tweet itself and prominently displayed directly below the tweet that contains the harmful misinformation.

twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1230562995798855684

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