The Sun - Iran forcing gay people into gender reassignment surgery.

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www.thesun.co.uk/news/10998169/iran-gay-people-gender-reassignment-surgery/

Sorry to link to The Sun, but an important and extremely worrying report. What will Stonewall do about this horror.

I have asked Mumsnet to edit the title it’s Iran obviously 🙄

Thanks Mumsnet.

Peter Thatchell is quoted in article as saying

"Iran’s policy of encouraging gender reassignment has nothing to do with supporting trans people.

"It is motivated by a desire to eradicate homosexuality and enforce traditional male and female gender norms"

Afterall, this is pretty much what they, mermaids et al have been pushing for with kids in the uk.

from the OP article:

"IRAN is forcing thousands of gay people to undergo gender reassignment surgeries in a sick bid to “cleanse” the country of homosexuality.

The Islamic Republic legalised transsexuality in 1987 and is second only to Thailand in its number of trans surgeries.

However, prominent LGTB activists have told Sun Online that these procedures are part of a disturbing programme fuelled by homophobia.

Homosexuality is illegal in Iran and gay people are hanged from cranes in the street in sick public executions.

Iranian-born activist Shadi Amin says the Iranian regime, which is controlled by religious extremists, view being gay as an “illness” and that the only cure is to change the person’s gender.

She said: “The government believes that if you are a gay man your soul is that of a woman and you should change your body." (continues)

2014 BBC
The gay people pushed to change their gender
By Ali Hamedani
(extract)
"Iran is one of a handful of countries where homosexual acts are punishable by death. Clerics do, however accept the idea that a person may be trapped in a body of the wrong sex. So homosexuals can be pushed into having gender reassignment surgery - and to avoid it many flee the country.

Growing up in Iran, Donya kept her hair shaved or short, and wore caps instead of headscarves. She went to a doctor for help to stop her period.

"I was so young and I didn't really understand myself," she says. "I thought if I could stop getting my periods, I would be more masculine."

If police officers asked for her ID and noticed she was a girl, she says, they would reproach her: "Why are you like this? Go and change your gender."

This became her ambition. "I was under so much pressure that I wanted to change my gender as soon as possible," she says.

For seven years Donya had hormone treatment. Her voice became deeper, and she grew facial hair. But when doctors proposed surgery, she spoke to friends who had been through it and experienced "lots of problems". She began to question whether it was right for her.

"I didn't have easy access to the internet - lots of websites are blocked. I started to research with the help of some friends who were in Sweden and Norway," she says.

"I got to know myself better... I accepted that I was a lesbian and I was happy with that."

But living in Iran as an openly gay man or woman is impossible. Donya, now 33, fled to Turkey with her son from a brief marriage, and then to Canada, where they were granted asylum." (continues)
www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29832690

Why has this been ignored for the last six years?

8th April 2019 Lucy Bannerman Times:

"It feels like conversion therapy for gay children, say clinicians
Ex-NHS staff fear that homophobia is driving a surge in ‘transgender’ young people
(extract)
Inside the clinic rooms of the Tavistock, the private heartache of a new generation of “transgender” youngsters is being laid bare. There used to be about 50 referrals a year, mainly males with a history of gender issues.

Now there are thousands of young females reporting a sudden gender crisis for the first time. Many are convinced that transition — and the powerful drugs that make it happen — will be the solution to their problems.

Until now the specialists struggling to keep up with caseloads have stayed silent, but alarm over the number of adolescents being prescribed body-altering drugs, has prompted five former clinicians to speak out for the first time." (continues)

The clinicians have warned that complex histories and adolescent confusion over possible homosexuality are being ignored in the rush to accept and celebrate every young person’s new transgender identity.

Clinical psychologists carry out each initial assessment at the Tavistock. They are the gatekeepers who decide whether to refer transgender youngsters to the endocrine clinic for the next stage of treatment. Therapists once had months to work through underlying issues before making decisions on medical intervention, but the clinicians claim that young people are now routinely referred for hormone therapy after as few as three hour-long sessions.

They believe that physically healthy children are being medicated in response to pressure from transgender lobby groups and parental anxieties.

So many potentially gay children were being sent down the pathway to change gender, two of the clinicians said there was a dark joke among staff that “there would be no gay people left”.

“It feels like conversion therapy for gay children,” one male clinician said. “I frequently had cases where people started identifying as trans after months of horrendous bullying for being gay,” he told The Times.

“Young lesbians considered at the bottom of the heap suddenly found they were really popular when they said they were trans.”

Another female clinician said: “We heard a lot of homophobia which we felt nobody was challenging. A lot of the girls would come in and say, ‘I’m not a lesbian. I fell in love with my best girl friend but then I went online and realised I’m not a lesbian, I’m a boy. Phew.’”

The specialists expressed concern at how little confusion over sexuality was explored when a young person requested treatment to change their body." (continues)
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/it-feels-like-conversion-therapy-for-gay-children-say-clinicians-pvsckdvq2

The hypocrisy of Peter Tatchell, the silence of Stonewall. Breathtaking.

What will Stonewall do about this horror.

Send someone to study Iran's 'best practice'?

This seems like the end point of Trans Activism to me.
I mean, how else do they imagine this is going to play out?

Great to see this in the Sun and using the same language as our own dear TRAs - trapped in the wrong body and all that.

Readers are going to think ‘hold on, where have I heard that before?’

"It is motivated by a desire to eradicate homosexuality and enforce traditional male and female gender norms"

Every account you read from parents with 'trans' children are full of statements reinforcing traditional gender role. Bit like mermaids Barbie to GI Joe sliding scale of gender identity, eh Peter?

Bit of cognitive dissonance there Peter.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-29832690

The language used in this BBC article from a few years ago is strikingly different to the language used now to describe gender reassignment.

This has been going on for years. Stonewall used to condemn it. I note that they no longer do.

Some parents will rush to squash their own feelings of homophobia and related discomfort shown by their children who only want to be “normal”. This is in additional to the pressure adolescents feel to conform generally.

Gender dysphoria is real - but you do not normally prescribe such a radical permanent change to meet the wider requirements of a society riddled with latent homophobia as a first option.

Hardly breaking news.

Oooh, nearly there, Peter, nearly there. Keep going...

There is a very short path from genderists to conversion therapy.
It is the raison d'etre to encourage genderism in school children.

At least in Iran they are upfront about why they do it.

How someone like Tatchell can recognise the homophobia and strict gender roles in Iran but not apply that critical thought to the western world is beyond me.

In a ‘traditional’ country like that - surely there will be no laws to protect transsexuals against discrimination - they won’t get married, will find it hard to get a job and home, can’t go to the police if attacked (can’t see them giving a toss). So what’s the plan exactly?

Its reasonable to assume that there will be a number of men (some with considerable influence) who will have sex with male transsexuals & be immune to the charges of homosexuality as they are regarded legally as females.

Powerful segue upthread from Rowantrees.

Those with influence could have sex with a goat in the middle of Azadi square and get off scot free.

To try to frame Iran's awful treatment of homosexuality as some sort of way to advance trans rights is a bit sick even for the Sun.