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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

2018 Femicide Census Published

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CaveMum · 20/02/2020 08:27

Full details here: femicidescensus.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Femicide-Census-Report-on-2018-Femicides-.pdf

Lifted from report:

Main findings from Femicide Census report of killings of women in the UK in 2018:
• 149 women were killed by 147 men.14
• 91 women (61%) were killed by their current or former
male spouse or intimate partner.
• 12 women (8%) were killed by sons or step-sons; a further 5 women (3%) were killed by a son-in-law or ex son-in-law.
• Only 6% of Femicide (9victims)were committed by a stranger or where there was no known relationship between the victim and the perpetrator.
• There was evidence of previous abuse or violence in over half the cases where the perpetrator was known to the victim (52%; 69 out of 133 cases).
The youngest victim was aged 14 years15 and the eldest 100, with 23 women (16%) aged 66 or over when killed.
• Approximately one third of victims (34%) had a child/children under 18 when killed.
• In at least 37 cases, women had separated/taken steps to separate from their male partner.
• 41%(37of91)Of women killed by a partner/ex had separated or taken steps to separate with 30% of them (11/37) killed within the first month and 70% (24/37) killed within the first year.
• 102 (68%) femicides took place in the woman’s home, whether shared with the perpetrator (33%) or not (35%).
• Men most frequently killed women with a sharp instrument (69 cases; 46%).
• Overkilling was evident in over half the femicides (83 cases, 56%).
• Mostperpetratorswereagedbetween26–55 (100 perpetrators, 68%).
• At least 76 (52%)perpetrators were known to have had histories of previous violence against women.
• Three perpetrators had killed women before.
• At least 16 (11%)perpetrators used pornographers and/or
women in prostitution in relation to the femicide.
• 89perpetrators(61%)Were found guilty of murder.
• 25perpetrators(17%)were found guilty of manslaughter; 12 (8%) on the grounds of diminished responsibility.
• Sentences for murder ranged from minimum tariffs of 12.5–38 years.
• Sentences for manslaughter ranged from 2–20.5 years, with three perpetrators being given suspended sentences and eight being given hospital orders/detained under the Mental Health Act.

May they all RIP 😢

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CaveMum · 20/02/2020 08:27

Sorry some of the words have merged together when I copied them, hope it’s readable.

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Lordfrontpaw · 20/02/2020 08:30

That’s pretty sobering seeing it written down. Not surprising though.

Where are the political parties pledges, the student campaigns, the flags, the boycotts, the police support, the coffee shop cookies? When will Primark start selling t-shirts and when’s the parade?

slipperywhensparticus · 20/02/2020 08:32

We are only women we are disposable

littlbrowndog · 20/02/2020 09:35

As one police inspector said. There is an epidemic of domestic violence

Waiting to see police forces on their twitter feeds and on there cars campaigning about this femicide

Waiting to hear political parties writing pledges to end this

Waiting for Starbucks to run a campaign

This is not literal violence on twitter

This is the murder of women and girls

littlbrowndog · 20/02/2020 09:35

As one police inspector said. There is an epidemic of domestic violence

Waiting to see police forces on their twitter feeds and on there cars campaigning about this femicide

Waiting to hear political parties writing pledges to end this

Waiting for Starbucks to run a campaign

This is not literal violence on twitter

This is the murder of women and girls

CaveMum · 20/02/2020 09:35

It’s always the “overkilling“ stat that really gets to me.

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CaveMum · 20/02/2020 09:35

It’s always the “overkilling“ stat that really gets to me.

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littlbrowndog · 20/02/2020 09:35

As one police inspector said. There is an epidemic of domestic violence

Waiting to see police forces on their twitter feeds and on there cars campaigning about this femicide

Waiting to hear political parties writing pledges to end this

Waiting for Starbucks to run a campaign

This is not literal violence on twitter

This is the murder of women and girls

littlbrowndog · 20/02/2020 09:50

Sorry site went wonky

Lordfrontpaw · 20/02/2020 10:32

The guardian can bugger off. They are not helping in such discussions because we know what they are really thinking.

MoodLighting · 20/02/2020 10:34

Sobering to see how many men are tried with manslaughter, not murder.

Lordfrontpaw · 20/02/2020 10:38

Where is the justice?

BovaryX · 20/02/2020 11:01

Thank you for posting. There are some really shocking statistics in there. Including the fact that some police forces didn't even bother to respond and one missed out seven murdered women. As a previous poster says, it's eye opening how many killers are only convicted of manslaughter and how few of them get a proper sentence. One threw his mother off a balcony and got a suspended sentence? Another beat his wife to death with a crowbar and got a suspended sentence? WTF is going on?

Languishingfemale · 20/02/2020 11:07

Today is the day that the vile specimen who murdered Grace Millane is sentenced in New Zealand. A day after the awful murder of the women and her 3 children by her partner.
Julie Bindel's article hits the nail on the head - there is an amnesty on male violence. I'll be waiting for the labour party candidates to comment on this. Expect the normal tumbleweed from them.........

Lordfrontpaw · 20/02/2020 11:12

But forgetting the creature in Germans who murdered those people last night - and his (72 year old) mum was found shot in the head. I believe they originally said there were 2 female victims in his home?

Lordfrontpaw · 20/02/2020 11:13

Oh and the Australian who set fire to a car with his wife and three children in it?

BovaryX · 20/02/2020 11:26

^As one police inspector said. There is an epidemic of domestic violence. Waiting to see police forces on their twitter feeds and on there cars campaigning about this femicide. Waiting to hear political parties writing pledges to end this. Waiting for Starbucks to run a campaign
This is not literal violence on twitter
This is the murder of women and girls^

Well said littlebrowndog absolutely agree. What happened to the Conservative pledge to tackle violence against women? Why are many of these killers getting derisory sentences? It makes me furious that there has been an allegedly Conservative govt in situ for ten years while crime goes up and sentences go down. As you say, where are the political pledges and where is the political outrage about these awful statistics?

littlbrowndog · 20/02/2020 11:39

Men’s violence is often framed as a mental health issue rather than a moral issue

We need to recognise that men use violence to achieve their goals and uphold their values. Violence is never random or accidental - it is enforcement

From Twitter

chomalungma · 20/02/2020 11:40

The Conservatives have been in power for 10 years.
The funding has been cut for refuges.
Rape prosecutions are very low.
Police forces have been cut.
The justice system has been underfunded.

This is a real issue and one that should be discussed. What are the Conservative Government - the ones who have been in power, who hold the purse strings, who make laws, going to do about it?

And how can women get their voice heard about this?

CaveMum · 20/02/2020 12:31

Here’s a man who gets it. These are his comments to another man who asked what men are supposed to do about male violence:

The onus is on us as men. What do YOU suggest?
some thoughts from me, in no particular order:

  1. Challenge sexist comments
  2. Boycott abusive sex industries
  3. Become informed of the prevalence/ range of #maleviolence
  4. Allow boys to be gentle
  5. Allow ourselves to be vulnerable
  6. Listen more than speak
mentions 7. Follow lots of feminists on social media
  1. Read what they say. Resist butting in.
  2. Meet with other men to start discussion groups about ending #MVAWG
10. Look at how the media frame stories of domestic abuse. Study the language choices. 11. Ask men who support #porn - why? mentions 12. Ask men who support #prostitution -why? 13. Tell your friends you’re there for them if they ever have things preying on their mind. When you’re sober. 14. Fundraise 4 austerity-ravaged frontline women’s services 14. Ask men if they buy their kid’s pressies. If not why not? mentions 15. Is it ‘just banter’ or are we enforcing rules? 16. Ask yourself the last time you got cat-called 17. Ask yourself the last time you had a random person telling you to smile 18. Ask yourself the last time someone tried to sneak a picture of your privates 19. Accept that women mentions Need single-sex spaces. Never criticize them for that. 20. Cook. Clean. Deal with skid-marks. 21. Ask yourself if you are praised as a man for something g women do without being noticed. 22. Use your nouse

Yes, there are 2 number 14’s.

  1. Acknowledge the full and autonomous humanity of women.
  2. Think through the problems in not giving a toss THEN listen when women say they don’t want ‘white knights’ - and don’t get angry with that.
  3. Find out if yr female colleagues doing the same job are paid the same mentions 26. Wonder what it’s like to be a girl growing up in s hyper-sexualised culture
  4. Talk to the boys in your life about feelings, about the importance of empathy
  5. Ask yourself - am I empathetic? Really?
  6. Accept you don’t have to ‘win’ conversations
  7. Keep doing it

twitter.com/michealconraoi/status/1230457592377487360?s=21

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womaninblue · 20/02/2020 13:12

Horrifying. It's always been a rule of thumb during my lifetime to say two women, on average, are killed each week by a man, but now that's got to be three.

R0wantrees · 20/02/2020 16:50

This should be front page & on every news program today.

CaveMum · 26/02/2020 19:23

MNHQ are listening. Thank you.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_campaigns/3829010-MNHQ-here-Femicide-Census-want-to-know-what-you-could-do-to-help

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