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International women's day-all genders

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FemaleAndLearning · 17/02/2020 19:01

Does anyone have a local International Women's Day that is not for all 'women'? This is the Derby one.
www.facebook.com/411927508843991/posts/2653394331363953/

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Lordfrontpaw · 18/02/2020 12:34

Ah yes - Wiki (says it all really).

'Women's History Month was celebrated in the UK in 2011 and 2012 .A website was set up but has since apparently been abandoned.'

Thelnebriati · 18/02/2020 12:44

I think there is an opportunity here. If everyone researches at least one woman, we can post about them throughout March on social media.

Lordfrontpaw · 18/02/2020 12:55

I've seen when organisations do that on twitter!

Ah yes, I remember the first in a series of inspiring women (or some such) being Lili Elbe. That didn't go as planned. I forget why.

FloralBunting · 18/02/2020 13:07

Actually, fuck this. Let's do it. I understand and support the venting of frustration, and I do myself often. But let's galvanize our anger, let's do what women have done in the service of our liberation, and be determined, organized and raise the consciousness of a new generation of women.

Lordfrontpaw · 18/02/2020 13:20

Its definitely going to be on my company tweets on the 8th at least. Is there a logo or banner?

Lordfrontpaw · 18/02/2020 13:20

Oh there is. Is it just me or does it look like she is smoking a fag?

Lordfrontpaw · 18/02/2020 13:22

oh here

International women's day-all genders
JustfiedandAncient · 18/02/2020 13:23

Come to speakers corner!

www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/women-say-tickets-92343888055

WelshMoth · 18/02/2020 13:27

@SirVixofVixHall I've had a good look through the 100 Welsh Women but something is telling me that I'm missing something?

FloralBunting · 18/02/2020 13:32

I'm dead bloody serious, wims. Plenty of idiots manage to get daft arse hashtags trending, and that's all necessary to begin with. Decide on a hashtag, and let's share the stories of women. We've had brilliant threads on here discussing the women who inspire us. Totally doable.

ErrolTheDragon · 18/02/2020 13:34

LordFrontPaw She's holding the Athena international logo (I'm guessing it's based on a DNA double helix?). The IWD logo includes a stylised Venus symbol.

ErrolTheDragon · 18/02/2020 13:39

It's a good idea, but would perhaps need a little thought how to implement effectively. The problem with hashtags, especially if publicised in advance, is that they can easily be appropriated.

stumbledin · 18/02/2020 14:36

hmmmmm ......... not sure what web sites and social media outlets any of you are on but Women's History Month has been a "thing" for ages and a lot of women complained that it was wrong to import this US concept as it blanked out the focus of March being IWD.

But women's history month like IWD has not only been corrupted by funders who will insist on trans inclusion but also the much more corrosive effect of the corporisation of International Women's Day. There's a whole history to this but suffice it to say many women's groups now shun IWD as many events are about getting ahead in business, having beauty therapy, meeting up for a nice lunch.

It has been totally depolitised.

However there is nothing stopping local women who aren't reliant on funding to put on an event to make IWD whether leafleting, or having a silent demo, or doing the Chilean anti rape dance.

It is such as shame as in the past it was one of the occassion when grassroots women's groups could get some attention. Even local boroughs have given up having open day events when women's groups could have a stall and share info etc..

And of course, which is another issue, is that IWD (or the nearest saturday) there would always be a big march which gave women's groups, activists, service providers etc., the opportunity to be seen very publicly to exist. (There were always a bit of political elbowing as to who would be at the front of the March and WfH would always wait strategically at the side and then rush to the front as the march set off!)

But now MWR has sort of appropriated that day (whereas in fact it would be better as part of the 16 Days events). So however central that March is, it doesn't give the opportunity for a diverse representation of women's politics to be seen on the street.

Its sad that we cant work out how to work together.

And yes, of course I realise that even if somehow it was possible to agree to have an IWD march, trans activists would attempt to hijack it.

I think there was a suggestion to just have another day (1 May?) and just do something there.

IWD was originally something that TU women did, and 70s feminists tried to make it wider that women at work. During one of the meetings to negotiate if the two concepts could be reconciled a delegate from the TUs said "try not to think of me as a man, think of me as a Trade Unionist".

So maybe living as we do in the post Thatcher, Blair capitalist society it is inevitable that IWD should now be a commercial opportunity who just see women as wage earners whose money they want to be spent on their products.

Lordfrontpaw · 18/02/2020 15:13

Oh I can see what she is holding but she looks like she is holding a fag whilst waiting in queue for the loo. We can do better...

SirVixofVixHall · 18/02/2020 15:29

WelshMoth
Jan Morris. May well be a lovely, elderly person, but ..

SirVixofVixHall · 18/02/2020 15:32

The thing is I knew before I looked that there would be at least one male person on that list.
Slightly strange list anyway, as there are some amazing women and some rather less amazing, but tragic that we can’t have a list like that without someone male. I am not sure if JM is the only one, I need to look through the list again.

nonsenceagain · 18/02/2020 15:42

A lot of groups and orgs have not given up on IWD. My lot celebrate it in various ways every year.

#womenshistorymatters
#womenshistoryiswomensliberation
#50yearsofwomensliberation

Or something. Not very good at hashtags but happy to chip in with floral.

nonsenceagain · 18/02/2020 15:44

Also, it might be worth asking WPUK if they want to host daily posts or mini biographies through March on their twitter account. We could all chip in and beginning with an already strong platform seems sensible.

ErrolTheDragon · 18/02/2020 15:57

Does/should Mumsnet do anything for IWD/women's history month? A series on inspirational mothers maybe?

My suggestion would start with the headlines ^"Oxford housewife wins Nobel" and "British woman wins Nobel Prize – £18,750 prize to mother of three."
^

(See www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/may/12/google-doodle-honours-biochemist-dorothy-hodgkin )

agentnully · 18/02/2020 17:36

@SirVixofVixHall you beat me to it.

A list. Of women. Probably is a lovely old dear but it's a list of women.

I can think of many more Welsh Women that could have made the list but I suppose I'm a bit too old-fashioned with my un-woke thinking.

SirVixofVixHall · 18/02/2020 18:10

Yes, exactly. There is a woman missing from that list.

NeurotrashWarrior · 18/02/2020 19:14

Well that image is just lgbtq+dfhjkookk's day.

Wtf.

Gingerkittykat · 18/02/2020 23:55

Nope, posters for IED here feature a variety of diverse women, no mention of trans at all.

There is also a theatre event celebrating a female historical figure (won't name as will out where I live) which I am intending on going to.

A celebration on Mumsnet for IWD would be fantastic.

WelshMoth · 19/02/2020 06:25

Jan Morris

Of course.

Lordfrontpaw · 19/02/2020 07:58

Women don’t matter any more. Trans women do. Trans men definitely don’t. Such is life these days.