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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mayor of London

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NotAssigned · 16/02/2020 18:03

They're all at it

I hope to god Rory manages to oust Sadiq.

Mayor of London
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Lordfrontpaw · 17/02/2020 11:49

I'm amazed there isn't a howl of 'privilege' going up right now - don't mention 'women's issues' - because it makes some people feel excluded...

happydappy2 · 17/02/2020 12:25

If only he could be forced to resign after tweeting such blatant lies.

BorneoBabe · 17/02/2020 12:43

Men really can't stand women making their own boundaries, can they?

JustHereWithMyPopcorn · 17/02/2020 16:41

AutmunRose1 the entire horrific issue of the mesh is just one tiny fragment of what women have had to endure, and still he stands there, when his rival candidate goes through this and states that women are biologically the same as men - I mean, I assume that's what TWAW means, right?

AmIInvisible · 17/02/2020 18:51

For anyone in London interested in democracy in action ..

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This event takes place on Wednesday 11 March 2020.
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AutumnRose1 · 18/02/2020 12:40

Popcorn, agree. In fact I’m going to write in and say as much. khans just throwing out the female vote. Unless he can’t face doing the job again!!

Lordfrontpaw · 18/02/2020 12:57

What exactly did he do - apart from some amusing spats with that other bastion of feminism, Donald Trump.

AutumnRose1 · 18/02/2020 12:59

Well he helped stop the release of John Warboys.

But recently I’m beginning to see why London didn’t have a mayor before. I don’t want a cultural ambassador, I want practical things like cleaner streets.

Oh, I do think he’s managed to save some council housing as well, so fair play for that.

Tootsweets23 · 18/02/2020 13:28

Weirdly I think I'm even more pissed off with Sadiq's tweet than the nonsense spouted by Nandy, RLB and Dawn Butler.

He did it after the leadership contenders signed that stupid trans pledge to boot our WPUK and LGBAlliance supporters. So instead of staying quiet or saying something measly mouthed trying to triangulate between the two sides (impossible as we know), he chose to virtue signal the belief that if not agreed to would see hordes of women booted out of the party.

He's just lost my vote.

Barracker · 18/02/2020 13:31

EVERY time someone writes the socially acceptable lie that: "trans women are women"
I feel a sick jolt that the rejoinder, which is the absolute truth: "transwomen are men" is not equally sayable.
Instead, it is open to censorship, sanctions, bannings, deletions, and possible civil and criminal action.

It should be easier, more permissable, to say and write the truth than it is to say or write a lie. But it isn't any more.

But we're already at the point in time where
"some males are women" is entirely allowable, and
"all males are men" is shocking, socially unacceptable, 'unkind', disallowed, censorable and potentially criminal.

In the UK, in 2020.

This terrifies me.

If the mayor of London can write "trans women are women" then a British woman must, must, must be equally free to say "no, transwomen are men".

It should scare us all that we never hear that sentence spoken any more, and we are scared of the consequences of writing it as honestly and plainly as that. Transwomen are men.

I want desperately for MNHQ to understand that to censor the truth but to allow or uphold the lie is deeply horrifying and Orwellian. I'm hoping that this post will be allowed to stand. I don't believe it breaks guidelines.
But the test of it will be this:

Khan: "trans women are women"
Me: "transwomen are men"

Lordfrontpaw · 18/02/2020 13:36

me 'who told you that?'

happydappy2 · 18/02/2020 14:03

No one has explained exactly how a transwoman is a woman....at what point does this magical transformation happen?

It doesn’t. We know it, they know it. It’s not acceptable that we must lie to be ‘kind’ & I refuse to accept that BS and not argue against it.

Sex change in humans is impossible.

Xanthangum · 18/02/2020 14:04

TWAW is in itself transphobic; that is, it removes the protected characteristic from the minority group. Why do TRAs keep saying it?

Fairenuff · 18/02/2020 14:30

If transwomen are women then that also means that women are transwomen. Which would make everyone trans and we all come under the umbrella and can't possibly be trans exclusionary because we are trans.

Let's just cut the bullshit now and go back to sensible language with words that have definitions. Can't wait for all this nonsense to be over now that it's finally firmly out in the spotlight.

DuLANGMondeFOREVER · 18/02/2020 16:04

Need to put this incredibly clever thread down here, seeing as it references the mayor directly.

Why we are all in the grip of collective madness:

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1229539824031485952.html

andyoldlabour · 18/02/2020 16:09

Every single politician who repeats the mantra, can never be trusted to hold public office, to represent the will of the majority.

DuLANGMondeFOREVER · 18/02/2020 16:16

We need a way of weeding out the lift spinners before they get to public office!

xxyzz · 18/02/2020 16:43

Shame, I really like Sadiq Khan and think he's been a great mayor, but what a plonker.

My opinion of him has gone right down.

I thought he could see beyond toeing the party line.

Apparently not.

xxyzz · 18/02/2020 16:46

Agree, Barracker.

It's the Emperor's New Clothes thing.

Where it's social death to point out the bleeding obvious, that is obvious to any child.

Which is of course why children are the current line of attack.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 18/02/2020 16:46

I so very much look forward to the price of tulips dropping.

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