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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Number of women & girls killed highest for 14 years

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Kit19 · 13/02/2020 11:33

Full report here www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/homicideinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2019

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QuentinWinters · 13/02/2020 11:48

Almost half (48%) of adult female homicide victims were killed in a domestic homicide (99). This was an increase of 12 homicides compared with the previous year. In contrast, 8% of male victims were victims of domestic homicide (30) in the latest year. This was an increase of six homicides compared with the previous year.

In almost 4 in 10 female homicide victims aged 16 years or over, the suspect was their partner or ex-partner (38%, 80 homicides). This was an increase of 17 homicides compared with the previous year. However, the 63 homicides in the previous year was the lowest number in the last 40 years.1 Over the last 10 years there was an average of 82 female victims a year killed by a partner or ex-partner.

In contrast, there were only 4% of male victims aged 16 years and over where the suspect was their partner or ex-partner (16 homicides, Appendix Table 11, Figure 5).

For adult male victims, the suspect was most likely to be a friend or social acquaintance (27%, 105 men). The suspect was less likely to be a friend or social acquaintance when the victim was female (8%, 16 women).

Appalling that we still can't get a grip on men murdering their partners.

eltonjohnfan61 · 13/02/2020 11:50

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 13/02/2020 11:52

And yet sex is not a protected characteristic for the purposes of hate crime... Hmm

ThinEndoftheWedge · 13/02/2020 11:55

But don’t bloody dare tweet a limerick...

Nameofchanges · 13/02/2020 11:59

We need more funding for women’s DV services. So many of these could be prevented if it were easier for women to leave.

theflushedzebra · 13/02/2020 12:02

Misogyny is on the rise. Women's rights are being eroded. These things are linked.

ArranUpsideDown · 13/02/2020 12:05

Funding for housing, DV services, properly-resourced shelters, training, childcare...

But how are these going to get on the agenda when parties are engaged in removing the role of the judiciary to challenge them or enmeshed in ever-tightening purity spirals?

SkinRash · 13/02/2020 12:08

It would be interesting to see the ethnic origin breakdown of the figures. Violence against women seems more prevalent in certain groups.

OvaHere · 13/02/2020 12:10

Just in the last week we had a so called progressive group protesting against women who were protesting against rape.

How can any of this be tackled if any mention of women as a class is denounced as bigoted and material analysis has been thrown out of the window.

These are bleak times.

QuentinWinters · 13/02/2020 12:17

Not sure why you would say that skin, but all the ethnicity data is available in the data tables. Here's a screenshot of ethnicity vs suspect, showing white on white homicide makes up the majority (500 of 800 cases).

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QuentinWinters · 13/02/2020 12:18

Oops

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littlbrowndog · 13/02/2020 12:23

It is shocking.

But then we get TW are the most oppressed ever by politicians.

Where is their outrage that women and girls are being murdered

Where is their pledge to end this specific violence.

Where are they all signing up to it ?

And putting it on their twitter feeds.

Thelnebriati · 13/02/2020 12:23

Is my maths right, that's 9 women and girls murdered every 2 weeks? Double the previous figure?

CharlieParley · 13/02/2020 12:24

The stats in Germany are that every day a man tries to kill his wife/partner. Every three days one of them succeeds.

The first time I read that I thought this was a horrific stat that seemed to encompass the reality of domestic violence better than just focusing on actual murders.

It suggests that other countries collect stats on the attempted murder of wives or partners by a man.

Are we doing that in the UK? And if so, where would this be reported?

ClosdesMouches · 13/02/2020 12:27

After watching the 4 candidates on Victoria Derbyshire this morning I was feeling so let down by Labour. Angry too.
In the context of this news release just a short time later, I'm still angry but am incredibly despondent.
I don't know what we can do that will make any difference as it's clear that our voices are not being heard, by anyone, especially the fucking Labour party.
Very afraid for the future of my younger sisters.

TheShoesa · 13/02/2020 12:28

It is a terrible state of affairs when the murder rate of women and girls is at its highest rate for 14 years. I am so saddened and angry on behalf of those who lost their lives.

Sadly I agree with zebra

QuentinWinters · 13/02/2020 12:28

inebriati 99 women were victims of a domestic homicide, 80 killed by a partner/ex partner.

The 500 figure is all homicides. So yes, over 9 people killed a week, over 2 women killed in a domestic offence.

Callimanco · 13/02/2020 12:28

Quentin
How do those figures translate into the percentages of different ethnicities in the population?
For example, white British people reportedly account for 81.9 percent of the population (so if violence equally likely in all communities you might propose a similar proportion, 82 percentish, of white on white victims?) , plus you have white Europeans etc, are they in "white on white" stats? Just trying to get my head round figures.

JustHereWithMyPopcorn · 13/02/2020 12:31

That needs to be tweeted to ALL the Labour leader candidates. I assume they haven't actually read it because, you know, it's just women...

QuentinWinters · 13/02/2020 12:33

I dont know. I just googled and found a report from Northamptonshire where the ethnicity of victims was in line with the overall population (pdf link)
Https:www.northamptonshire.gov.uk/councilservices/health/health-and-wellbeing-board/northamptonshire-jsna/Documents/Domain2_UnderstandingDomesticViolenceInNorthamptonshire_June2015.pdf

Basically though I am fed up hearing that men who do horrific things to women are somehow "other men". Its complete avoidance to deal with male violence and to distract us from talking about it. Most of the time it's not even factually correct.

Yorkshirelass04 · 13/02/2020 12:33

Why don't women all just become non-binary and the problem will go away.

QuentinWinters · 13/02/2020 12:36

charlie, it is in the report, implied though. 80 women last year were killed by current or former partners. The 10 year average is 82.
Given how small the number of female murderers is, it seems likely the vast majority of those partners were men. It does always interest me that it isnt spelt out though. Means you get all kinds of shit about violent lesbians from MRAs.

wellbehavedwomen · 13/02/2020 12:38

We need more funding for women’s DV services. So many of these could be prevented if it were easier for women to leave.

This.

Half the deaths are intimate partner violence. Obviously not all could be prevented, but sure as shit a lot could, if the women were properly supported, and helped to reach safety.

ArranUpsideDown · 13/02/2020 12:59

Podcast about data analysis of relative numbers of populations when reporting crime statistics and why some analyses based on ethnicity/race go so badly wrong (also has a transcript):

policyviz.com/podcast/episode-157-alberto-cairo/