Lord Ashcroft analysis of Labour defeat

[Fallingirl]

Couldn’t see a thread with this already.

There is a long Twitter thread with links to the full report.
The report includes quantitative and qualitative responses from people who had previously voted Labour, but abandoned them this time.

One of the reasons referred to in the interviews, was Labours ‘wokeness’ and their 125 genders nonsense.

Plenty more to look into in-depth. The twitter thread points out that when Cameron was told the Tories were out of touch with people, he paid attention. However, it is looking doubtful with the Labour Party so far.

twitter.com/mattsingh_/status/1227009423585021954?s=21

Labour have not won a General Election since 2005. I really hope they read this carefully, thanks for posting it

It is interesting. I was having this discussion with my very woke daughter. She thinks Labour lost because of the promise of a second Brexit referendum. I said only partly and I try to talk to her about my fears around self ID but she thinks I am a bigot.

The one of the two of us who protested against Section 28. Who has marched for rights for women and Socialist principles. The one who all through the 90s worked with the Labour Party and community groups. We got the word out and we bloody listened to our core voters. Fuck off with sex work is work. Fuck off with woman being a feeling in a mans head. Just fuck off with bullshit and work to make life better for the left behind and the disadvantaged. Give people a voice who don’t currently have one not middle class students who have never had to do without a meal. Just bloody listen to those who are being shouted over. Go out and listen.

This is a really fascinating and enlightening report. It look a while to get through it all (there's a lot of information!) but absolutely worth it. It will be uncomfortable reading for many, especially if naturally sympathetic to general Labour ideas and principles, but it makes you realise just how far removed the Labour Party is in terms of understanding what the concerns and priorities are of the general public and the complete lack of self-awareness in terms of how their candidates and policies come across.

Yes, there might be misinformation and misunderstanding among the public, but you overcome that by engaging with them, understanding their concerns and trying to find a middle ground, rather than labelling everyone who doesn't agree 100% with your viewpoints as racist or fascist.

We need a credible opposition to the Conservative government. Yet it seems like many in the Labour Party are content to be a university protest group and have zero interest in actually trying to secure governmental power. It's 100% their ideology or nothing at all. It's also not how many things function in the real world. They continue to demonstrate that they have no ability to govern or find pragmatic compromises. It must be tough for those LP members who want to find a workable solution that will resonate with general voters to see agendas being driven by the ideologically pure.

What a shambles. I doubt Labour will be in power anytime soon.

Thank you for starting this thread.

It makes for sober but unsurprising reading.

My CLP became unbearably "woke" and the ability to debate/disagree with the Corbynist faction was eroded and eventually shut down.

All at the same time as slogans such as "kinder politics" and "for the many not the few" were being bandied about.

The hypocrisy was unrelenting.

Many members of this faction are simply too invested in their momentum led ideology to see a world outside it and having largely come from comfortable middle class backgrounds have little understanding of the issues the "past typical" labour voter were concerned about.

I think it's going to take a lot to change the party to be honest and I'm not even sure it's possible before they make themselves a fringe political offering at best.

My cousin in Australia and I wrote in an email to each other last October that we thought Labour would get trounced in a forthcoming general elections for exactly these reasons. I won’t ask if we (not members of any political party, not cognoscenti etc) could see that coming why couldn’t they, because it’s depressingly obvious why.

I still hoped that when they did get trounced it might lead to some serious reflection, but I was quickly disabused of that naive notion.

I am wondering whether everyone near the labour party leadership get most of their knowledge of the world at large from Twitter.

Are they perhaps actually that ignorant?

They arent very bright if that's any help. Seriously though the current crop arent critical thinkers.