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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Conservative Men in Conservative Dresses ( 2002 article)

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Kantastic · 06/02/2020 06:31

As per a tweet from Ray Blanchard:
An article on heterosexual cross-dressers (autogynephiles) that The Atlantic Monthly purged from its archives. Written by Amy Bloom and published April 2002, volume 289, issue 4. It’s been almost entirely scrubbed from the Web. Now on a Google drive.

I'll put the link in the next comment. It's to a PDF. (I suggest opening it in an incognito window . Google Docs links can sometimes give other people clues to your identity if you're logged in, and I'm unsure if that also applies to Google Drive.)

I imagine this thread will be targeted with heavy reporting. As evinced by the Atlantic removing this story from its archives, a lot of people don't want this article to be read. It might be best to avoid drawing any lines from the men featured in this article to any modern day population, insofar as it's practical.

The article is long, but worth it. There are a lot of great quotes.

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Kantastic · 06/02/2020 06:33

the link:

drive.google.com/file/d/1BkIQTu7BV2nifZ3sbSFpS7spWb9od3YU/view

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postingintotheabyss · 06/02/2020 07:30

Have only read the first couple of pages but was struck by this line -

'When the dressing and the garments are the fuel for and the expression of one's sexual wishes, it is about sex, not gender'.

Says it all, really.

postingintotheabyss · 06/02/2020 19:57

Forgot to say thanks for sharing this link, Kantastic. Am still ploughing through it - it's long! There are so many paragraphs that seem to reflect exactly what the trans widows have been saying all this time -

'The cross-dressers of Tri-Ess insist that cross-dressing is not about sexuality, and therefore not about sex. They are right about the first, and we can all stop assuming that any man who wears a dress is gay. But they are not right about the second, and their assertion, their defense, that cross-dressing is their creative expression of both genders is unsettling, because it is at such odds with their behavior, their natures, and their marriages. These men are as far from being gender warriors and feminists as George W. himself. As one wife said to me, "For twenty years he couldn't help with the dishes because he was watching football. Now he can't help because he's doing his nails. Is that different?" For these men, the woman within is entirely the Maybelline version, not the Mother Teresa version.'

SirVixofVixHall · 07/02/2020 00:00

I remember reading that - wasn’t it in the Observer ?

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