Blaire White

[midcenturylegs]

This was posted on a GC FB page earlier this afternoon. Didn't know an awful lot about BW apart from heated exchanges with JV. Apparently all "tXxFs look like men" and more.

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For the record, I'm not comfortable with the language used in that fb post.

Blaire White isn't GC, BW is, according to TRAs, "truscum" (and right-wing truscum at that). The enemy of our enemy is not automatically our friend and all that.

Acknowledging that bio sex exists is right up there in the "fire is hot" "sky is blue" level of obviousness. It really should come as no surprise that there will be a pretty disparate group of people you agree with on this issue and this one issue only.

It's actually Calvin Garrah, a transman,
(ie AFAB) who states all t##fs look like men.
There is already a pile-on thread about Blair, do we really need another?
It seems pretty and pointless.

No fan here but this is bullshit.

*petty

I wasn't by posting this intending on a pile-on, at all.

Calvin states it, Blaire agrees with it. I've always liked Blaire, and will still watch their videos. But I'm not afraid to see what they are all about and who they are.

There's a part where they clearly indicate that they believe they are male and female, respectively. Blink and you miss it, but it's there. I can't describe it without using a banned phrase.

Another gem from Blaire is that she thinks all t*rfs are t*rfs because a bloke cheated on them with a transwoman. Somewhat reductive and dismissive.

As to the woman they are laughing at in the video. I don't know anything about her, but the misogyny and lesphobia aimed at her (plus pops at her mental health) seems pretty clear. Blaire is commenting and laughing along. Of course Blaire's allowed to do that. We are allowed to comment and judge if we want to.

I'm fairly sympathetic to the idea that any ally will do in the fight to protect women's and children's rights, because the threat is very immediate and apparent.. But I don't think that means you can't look at their views as a whole critically; and also question whether they would happily roll women's rights away too. That would be somewhat hypocritical in light of the pushback against No Debate that is happening on this board at the moment.

And btw, the other thread was a thread about a courageous detransitioner. Another poster wanted to make it all about Blaire and used a fair comment about the way Blaire behaves on camera to go on the attack.

I'll channel my inner Lang and say there are no sacred cows.

Blaire White and GC Mumsnet posters are like a venn diagram with a small overlap. In the overlap is ‘transwomen are biologically male’ ‘J Yaniv is a predator’ and ‘paedos aren’t part of the LGB(TQIA++)’ and don’t trans children’

I think that’s about it, any other suggestions?

Blaire White isn't GC, BW is, according to TRAs, "truscum" (and right-wing truscum at that). The enemy of our enemy is not automatically our friend and all that

Blair White is a right wing , libertarian. She has posted many videos where you could not fit a cigarette paper between her views and the majority of you on matters such as biology is real; trans women are not women; safeguarding of children; drag kids; cotton ceiling; men don't have periods and free speech.

And of course it was White provoked Yaniv into showing off online that he held illegal weapons.

White is actually the sort of trans person you (general you) seem just about capable of tolerating- namely pre- transitioning she was an effeminate, homosexual boy- not the type you diagnose as autogynephile.

Another poster wanted to make it all about Blaire and used a fair comment about the way Blaire behaves on camera to go on the attack

Presumably me? It was in response to the snide comments about Blair's appearance and the utterly ridiculous and incorrect comment about her doing make up videos. Blair is vain, mannered and "performs feminity" - so what? That is her personality- that is who she is.

"Going on the attack"- you mean having a different opinion?

Blair doesn't like feminists. Feminists are just part of the social just warriors set- and frankly having read the comments on the other thread I can understand why she used the dreaded t- word.

Luisa - "utterly ridiculous and incorrect comment about her doing make up videos" - I said I thought that was what she did, you corrected me, I admitted I was "incorrect". Why are you hounding me so though?

The ‘dreaded T word’ is banned around these parts Luisa.

I actually prefer Rose of Dawn’s channel to Blaire’s. I think I would enjoy Rose’s company.

The problem is there is no way to write laws that allow Rose into women’s spaces whilst also keeping Yaniv out, so the line has to be no biological males at all, no matter how funny/clever/nice/pretty they are.

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The problem is there is no way to write laws that allow Rose into women’s spaces whilst also keeping Yaniv out, so the line has to be no biological males at all, no matter how funny/clever/nice/pretty they are.

^^

So there now (as opposed to in the past where women had a choice to be kind to transsexuals) shouldn't be a problem to refuse access to female spaces from men. I'd have been fine with BW using women's spaces, now, I'm adamant they can't. It has to be a clear divide, women and men. Any who don't want to fit into those categories have to lobby for their own.

Still at it, LuisaRey. It does make me laugh that the people who want to rip up the rule book on woke politeness can't actually cope with a bit of criticism and fair comment. The "snide comment" you speak of was the observation that Blaire, a self proclaimed political commentator, whilst speaking to a young woman who is going through the hell of detransition, was behaving in a distracting and disrespectful manner by swishing hair, pouting and checking themself out. This is not behaviour that reflected the gravity of the situation.

The subject of that thread is Elle, a brave young woman who is detransitioning. You made it about Blaire. You had nothing to say about Elle. But you gave us this little gem: A common mistake made by a certain type of feminist is that anyone who is pretty, cares about their appearance or even is vain (which BW undoubtedly is) must be an air head not capable of higher thoughts beyond make-up . A certain type of feminist? What would that be then? Ugly, frigid, lesbian harridan? If you want to sling the word "snide" around, take a look in the mirror (give your hair a swish while you're at it).

NotBadConsidering duly noted. I wasn't sure whether I might be deleted for saying anything more explicit.

A certain type of feminist? What would that be then? Ugly, frigid, lesbian harridan? If you want to sling the word "snide" around, take a look in the mirror (give your hair a swish while you're at it)

Nice straw man there with your choice of frigid etc.

I meant the type of feminist who without bothering to check jumps to the prejudiced conclusion that BW is selling make up simply because of the way BW looks; the sort who didn't bother checking but posted twice about BW selling make up.

BW has literally 100s of videos on the craziness of TRAs , anti- fa, suppressing of free speech, support for lesbians against the likes of Riley Dennis etc but all a gender critical feminist thinks of is she must be pushing a make-up line.

Accusing h** of pushing a makeup line? I guess I've missed something.

I guess someone briefly mixed Blaire White up with Nikkie De Jäger? Both are successful youtubers. It’s hardly an insult.

What’s so wrong with being a make up professional anyway, Luisa? Maybe you should check your prejudice?

It was myself on the previous thread - I had always vaguely thought BW was a beauty-product YoiTuber. Made no specific judgement of BW but someone took a lot of offence at my error which I find really odd. I'm not 13 years old.

I paid a little attention to Blair a little bit around the time of the White/Yaniv video. I got the impression that Blair is mostly interested in distancing themself (my spellcheck doesn't like "themself" but neither do I) from Yaniv's type (fair enough) and also going for clicks.

Just saw this on the Reddit gender critical site which the thread next door is about:

My daughter was watching Blair's livestream on Jessica Yaniv and on it someone asked if she would debate "a TERF". Blair said "first, I don't think they don't like to be called that. second, I've tried but they turn me down but if you know of one willing to come on tell them to hit me up."

Any takers....

Shall we try this again, Luisa. Read MidCentury's posts. And read the others. It was Blaire's behaviour, not the way she bloody looks, that led to that conclusion and everyone's irritation. Every female, current affairs personality on TV is primped to within an inch of their life, most of them are very good looking. We take them seriously because they act seriously. They don't act like they're in a L'Oreal commercial when they are conducting an interview. If a male interviewer started tossing his hair and pouting on the same circumstances, I would say the same about him: preening, distracting, disrespectful.