@JustineMumsnet please consider reinstating LangCleg after a temporary suspension. It would help so many of us. Mumsnetters please sign!

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@JustineMumsnet

We the undersigned would like to ask you to consider reinstating LangCleg after a temporary suspension, as you have done with others.

Or perhaps, consider reinstating her for a three-month trial period and then reviewing.

We know you will have realised, from the two other LangCleg threads, how much her wisdom and constant voice in support of robust safeguarding is welcomed by so many on this board. It is truly a great loss to us, and to the depth of discussion about such important matters.

We hope Justine that you might do two things:

• Review what actually happened with LangCleg and decide whether it really was so dire that she deserves permanent expulsion, or whether perhaps there was an element of misunderstanding on your moderators' part (which Michaeel's post indicates may have happened) and, that perhaps she was being held to an inappropriately high standard compared to others
• Review the process, so that strong voices on here are able to continue to be heard for the benefit of all Mumsnet users

Or perhaps do neither of those things, and just reinstate her because you recognise how important your other Mumsnet users find her.... I guess the equivalent of a Royal Pardon,

Please hear our voice.

And everyone on here, please do sign if you want LangCleg back - just that, a signature with any discussion continuing on the LangCleg 2 thread. A signature to say you want her back and hope that @JustineMumsnet will consider this.

Thank you - both my fellow mums netters and Justine

Still.going strong
#ThisIsNotADrill

I bet most of the people taking the "Mumsnet staff should have just taken it" attitude would be up to human resources in a flash if they were treated with rudeness and contempt at work.*

Hah. I had a public facing job for a long long time. I got shouted at, sworn at, intimated and threatened and you know what? I let it all roll off me like water on a ducks back. Most people just deal with it and don't take it personally.

Oh im glad this gets bumped cos i dont think ive signed

Signed

And (sorry)

I think the OP is perfectly reasonable...not defending anything lang may or may not have done, just requesting a rethink if appropriate

Signed.

Not seen the 'rudeness' but did it really deserve a permanent ban?

I don't think staff should feel abused. Ive a lot of sympathy for mods and staff, I'm sure it's a hard job and I think on the whole they do a good job.

I think LangCleg's point wasnt directed at mods personally. And though I agree that I didn't see what was said in private messages, I do find it hard to believe that LangCleg would have been actually abusive to or about mods directly.

I think LangCleg was describing and pointing out - maybe over and over because that kind of message is hard to get heard - that the whole system (not Mumsnet, society/our societal norms today) has got to the point where women's thought and speech is monitored, and constantly curtailed.

It's maybe happened in subtle ways, over a period of time, so that most people aren't aware of how we got here.

But really, we should ask - how did it get to the point where we can't use certain everyday essential words for fear of losing our job, reputation, safety? How did it get to the point that Selina Todd needs security guards in a lecture? Women can't meet without being attacked, threatened, shouted at and pilloried? We can't discuss certain key issues because of our female privilege? Parents can't question what doctors or schools are prescribing/teaching kids, because their thinking might be wrong?

We were - at least I was - at a point where I felt we could finally discuss things that had been so long forbidden - women's bodies, women's lives, all the difficult, messy, painful, derided, dismissed things that we've lived with for so long that we don't even see the backdrop of our lives. And now this. Now 'no pussy hats on the women's march', 'no women only', no breastfeeding, no 'exclusive' lesbians, no safe spaces, no refuges, no toilets, changing rooms, chat groups, meetings, discussions, nothing that can be for women and about women. Nothing. It all has to shift to accommodate others.

I hope I haven't misrepresented the points LangCleg was trying to make. I don't hve her insight, experience or expertise in the subjects. But, of course, she's not here to clarify.

Our loss. Whose gain?

Exactly Scrimshaw. It is how the whole system is working. There is a lot of ‘gaming the system’ in the outside world.

Add me too (sorry to be late)

Bumping with new name.

Oooo - I like your name

Why thank you!

Signed - please reinstate LangCleg without further delay.

Signed.

Signed.

Up to this comment I make it a total of 565 posts who indicated 'signed' or a similar response.
I have not included the dissenting posts, deleted posts or other comments.

Lovely to see all the support LangCleg is getting.

Sorry its 588 who have signed, I forgot to add this page

Can't remember if I've signed already or not so... Signed!

non-UPDATE

I asked for any update since my last comms with MNHQ and they've said:

"...there's no decision to reinstate LangCleg as yet."

Signed

...as yet

Signed

Indeed Datun

Signed (perpetual name changer of 14 years standing)

Signed in the USA.

Lang Cleg's wisdom and courage is international!!!