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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Voyeur caught filming teen girl in Butlin's changing rooms - are family changing rooms a good idea?

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Sunkisses · 13/01/2020 12:08

I used to be all in favour of family changing rooms at leisure centres etc (so mother's weren't always responsible for getting kids changed), but now not so sure. Man jailed for filming a teen girl in the Butlin's changing room. I am guessing this was a mixed sex family village style changing area (article doesn't say)? I see voyeur type stories like this at least a couple of times a week. I don't feel at all safe with my DDs in mixed sex changing rooms. Why are so many places getting rid of female-only spaces, and leaving us vulnerable to these perverts?

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stillathing · 15/01/2020 08:05

I suppose we'll just carry on with the mixed sex agenda until the numbers of those being filmed and perved on / assaulted is noticed by those in power

At my most cynical I think that this will never be sorted out because even if those in power finally do take note (& it seems there's already been SO many incidents but I suppose the press rarely report on them as being part of a bigger problem) by that time we will have reached a point where we are no longer allowed to recognise that certain types of crimes are overwhelmingly committed by males. It will be seen as stereotyping to categorise people by genital type or something. Twitter has already banned people for stating accurate sex based crime stats.

picklemepopcorn · 15/01/2020 08:23

I was more thinking that only people with kids used the mixed areas- bigger cubicles and equipment like change tables. Singles using the same sex changing areas.

Goosefoot · 15/01/2020 12:06

Sunkisses

I think the idea was that only families would use the mixed sex rooms, and everyone else would use single sex facilities. So you would have male and female change rooms and then family ones for people with young kids.

There is some logic to that, although I wonder if people would start to think of the single sex change rooms as "adult" and so not suitable for kids. A lot of the time there is no reason small kids need to go into a family changing area.

littlecabbage · 15/01/2020 18:03

I agree - changing rooms as follows:

  1. Single sex women's, allowing only biological women and children of either sex under 8.

  2. Single sex men's, allowing only biological men and children of either sex under 8.

  3. Family changing rooms, allowing only parents/carers of either sex who are accompanying their children. No lone adults or groups of adults without children allowed.

littlecabbage · 15/01/2020 18:19

Oh, and

  1. A third space for anyone old enough to be in a changing room without a parent (?10 and up maybe?) who does not want to change in the changing room for their biological sex.
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