US Endocrinologist Will Malone interview with Benjamin Boyce

[pombear]

Just putting this here for those on FWR who may not be on twitter and have seen a link to this interview elsewhere.

A really thoughtful and interesting interview. It's really worth a watch.

As Will Malone says:
It takes significant suffering for society to wake up to ...reality

So many quotes to take from this but:

How do you consent a 14-year old to life-long infertility? How do you consent a stressed 17-year old to permanent voice changes, increased risk of heart disease and all the other physical changes that can occur that can be irreverisible from testosterone

Under normal circumstances...gynaecologists wlll not perform elective hysterectomies on women under the age of 25 unless there's some emergent reason and the reason is because they understand that the human brain is not fully matured until at least early 20s, maybe mid-20s and if you've got somebody with an autism spectrum condition or something else that may cause delay of development they may not be mature till late 20s to make a decision about permanent infertility so that's how regular medicine works, but we now have unscientific medicine,but we now have where a 14 year old can elect, apparently is competent enough to make a decision about life long infertility.

The two can't exist in the same space

It's unproven and unsafe

I guess the link to the interview would be helpful!

Good stuff.

Malone is very calm and factual. It's pretty terrifying.

I agree Scrimshaw and that's the key - Malone doesn't strike me as someone trying to push an ideology, not someone tryying to defy a point of view, he's just stating facts. And stating his concerns.

I had a conversation with a good friend today talking about vaccinations and Andrew Wakefield, and she said angrily how he was someone who 'cherry picked facts to push a certain ideology'. How angry she was about someone who pushed 'pseudo-science' because he had a certain world-view.

My lovely friend who said this is currently stuck in the 'transwomen are women' ideology/psuedoscience hole.

I am both a) awestruck as to how intelligent people can't see the parallels and b) here to talk her back down when she sees what's really going on here. I won't judge her, as living through this insanity I can now understand how the anti-vac theory took hold of so many normal people.

Thank you for the video link. He is just lovely. But I disagree with your analogy, pombear, because it is pretty clear to me, especially after listening to that interview, that the pharmaceutical companies are the ones who benefit from and are pushing all this affirmative treatment stuff. So I am also quite skeptical about vaccines. I believe there is the same lack of ethics behind the development of vaccines.

I may be wrong (and I don't have any young children in my care before anyone jumps down my throat) but I don't think the discussion of the pros and cons of vaccines should be off-limits either.