Charlie Evans on Sky News

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Section on "Gender Identity" on Sky News now, Charlie Evans being interviewed. With tagline, about the upcoming court case involving Tavistock.

it was on mute in my office so couldn't hear what was said!

Charlie gave a great interview, stressing that any kind of intervention should be put off until a more developed sense of self (eg mid 20s). That we are going backwards, eg boys wanting to explore clothes, dress up in dresses, are now being treated as though it's a symptom of something that needs medical intervention. More on "Gender Identity" to follow, it's the Sarah-Jane Mee show.

mcduffy so frustrating! I guess it'll be on repeat on Sky / YouTube later?

Sarah-Jane Mee said "gender identity" is a controversial topic, but people are talking about it more and learning a lot about it too.

I missed it too. Hope it’s available somewhere!

Here you go

Thank you!

Really good, rational and thoughtful. So glad that shouty 'balance' to any GC interview no longer seems to be demanded.

Really good. I wonder why the comments section was turned off?

I'd imagine Charlie turned off the comments so she wouldn't get heaped with abuse

She was fabulous. Came across really well.

Wow, that was a brilliant interview. Really hit the nail on the head as to the issues.

Charlie is doing a great job and frames the situation carefully. But the take away from the interview is that you might be born in the wrong body but don't rush to do anything about it. We need to progress to making it quite clear that no one is born in the wrong body.

@notassigned I agree about the born in the wrong body, she knows that's not a thing. Who in their right mind believes it?? I felt the interview was a bit Wishy washy And was an opportunity to be more definitive on the harms of Gender ideology. But any airtime on the issue is a good thing.

The born in the wrong body idea has gained a lot of ground, with so much wrong with it. It's interesting how TRAs are so keen to claim that it's possibly to 'be' something you feel inside, not the physical reality of your body and yet use the material reality of people with DSDs actual bodies (not how they identify, they never seem to bother to ask that) as some kind of (completely illogical) point. It's breathtakingly offensive. I think also almost disablist - to imply that your physical bodily reality isn't important and should be dismissed.

Charlie was calm and exuded both compassion and common sense. I think it was the right way to put her views forward because there was absolutely nothing controversial or illogical about what she said and this would stand in stark contrast to the shrieky reactions that are bound to follow.

I would imagine that any parent worrying about their child would have found Charlie's sensible advice quite reassuring.

I also imagine that people who generally don't follow much of the transgender debate would find it hard to understand why such a calm and likeable young woman might attract vitriolic abuse from the TRAs simply for stating such obvious good sense.

In her own quiet way, Charlie is pointing up and highlighting the madness. More power to her.

That was a really good interview. Sarah-Jane Mee seemed to understand the issues and Charlie did a great job conveying the reality of being a gender non-conforming child in the current genderist climate.

It's hard to see how anyone uninvolved could watch that without agreeing with Charlie.

I think Charlie Evans had one goal in mind which was to reach as wide an audience as possible in a comprehensible and persuasive way. Which I think she did very well.

She came across as a wise and understanding person.

I too think she is a brilliant advocate and very courageous. But we have to get to a point where we dismantle the myths that are holding this ideology together

That was a lovely interview. How far we have come!! Very brave of Charlie Evans to put herself in the spotlight and take on the responsibility of the Detransition Advocacy Network.

She comes across as very mature and level headed. I think a variety of approaches is the way forward, NotAssigned. Other activists and campaigners can go for a harder angle.
I think Charlie is reaching out via a different method - those parents and children who feel under pressure to rush into something. They might not be at the stage to accept a flat out message of 'No'. I think the way Charlie articulated it about how you can always transition later and when you're a well rounded person etc will give some parents and their teens pause for thought. The idea that they could defer such a life changing decision and focus for now on having fun in learning about themselves and developing their non-conformity might help put some people at ease. They aren't hurtling over some cliff edge. They can pause, breathe, and take their time. As we've seen, many young people eventually desist without any pressure to set their lives and bodies in stone.

It's a less confrontational approach and I think Charlie is being smart in that sense. Anyone who isn't immersed in the level of nuance and detail like we are - and it takes months and years to get a grasp of the intricacies in this ideological movement - will easily comprehend her message and any reasonable person will agree that letting children be themselves and wear what they like is a good thing, without rushing into permanent decisions until they have gained a good understanding of themselves.

I agree completely. It makes great sense to allow people to step away from the ideology and welcome them back and to provide a number of different paths for them to make that journey.

I agree Nonny . It’s a tactic many of us “watchful waiting” parents use. We buy time. Conflict is not helpful in this situation and Charlie is reaching out to a specific audience while also raising general awareness of the issue.

I think she took the right tone. The idea you don't need to do anything quickly is very helpful.

Charlie did very well - as others have said a gentle approach setting out a 'watch and wait' strategy will appeal better to young teens.