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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The GRA reform Act Scotlad

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EuphorbiaHemlockthe1st · 09/01/2020 07:53

The main gist of the reforms is reducing the wait for the certificate from 2 years to 3 months. This is for everyone 16 and over in Scotland.
This is the reason given - ''This was seen as very difficult for some or as risking trans people being exposed to prejudice or verbal or physical abuse. Reasons given included problems created when an individual’s personal documents are inconsistent, or do not match the gender presented, meaning that they are forced to reveal their status when they would not otherwise choose to do so.''
Which seems a bit confused to me.
In the last consultation on GRA in Scotland 60% were in favour of the changes.
As anyone in the UK can comment on this reform bill here
consult.gov.scot/family-law/gender-recognition-reform-scotland-bill/ others may wish to contribute with their views..
This is the ministers foreward www.gov.scot/publications/gender-recognition-reform-scotland-bill-consultation-scottish-government/ on the second page is a link on how to respond (online document) and where to send it.

A link at the bottom of that article take you to the next page Chapter 2 : the origins of the GRA Act and Chapter 3:The reasons to reform it etc.
Quite interesting reading as the tone seems to have changed.

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EuphorbiaHemlockthe1st · 09/01/2020 15:39

I would imagine the England and Wales bill/s will follow this model.

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Batshitcrazy75 · 09/01/2020 21:15

Hi this is my first post here so be gentle 😁

Having followed the GRA reforms for a while now, I think I feel confident in saying although this is happening in Scotland it won't happen in England/Wales for at least 5 years.

Given the Tory parties history it will just be kicked into the long grass permanently.

EuphorbiaHemlockthe1st · 10/01/2020 07:23

Thanks for posting Bathshit - yes, that is a possibility in England. My hoping for England is that by the time they actually consult on it the world attitude might have changed .
The consultation in Scotland - linked to above - lasts until March 2020 so there is time for anyone, not just Scottish people, to post their views,Presumably so that stonewall etc supporters of whom there will be much fewer in Scoland can voice their view from anywhere in the UK.
Can't think why else they let anyone post when Ms Sturgeon constantly rants about the wishes of 'The People of Scotland' - well this result will be the result of others too. Funny that.

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EuphorbiaHemlockthe1st · 10/01/2020 09:18

The main point is changing the length of time Ts have to wait for a certificate, living in their new gender, from 2 years to 3 months. Surely 2 years is reasonable for a life changing decision. 3 months, especially at 16 seems too short imv. You can post your views on the link. Fill in as much as you wish.

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EuphorbiaHemlockthe1st · 10/01/2020 09:23

A Few brave feminist MSPs have put their head above the parapet and GRA Sc has been modified already but unfortunately not too clearly eg organisers of sports can decide on whether T players can play in a competition or not after taking into consideration other players safety etc, however , at the moment it would be a brave person to send the T player home pre match.

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EuphorbiaHemlockthe1st · 10/01/2020 20:27

No one interested?

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EuphorbiaHemlockthe1st · 11/01/2020 10:40

I was really nervous about posting this as I thought I'd get quizzed by more knowledgable feminists and blasted with pro-trans comments by others.
But no one seems interested. There you go!

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midclegs · 28/01/2020 08:41

Hi - perhaps ask @mnhq to move it to feminist chat? I think everything happens there. I too info on the Murray review of the policy in the last couple of days. I'm not sure people realise that people outside of Scotland can respond.

Owenicky · 25/05/2020 19:21

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