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Australian fires and women

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midcenturylegs · 08/01/2020 18:53

I emailed my (Tory) MP today to ask that he lobby Parliament to provide Australia aid in their time of crisis - they've not helped out so far. I was thinking of writing a post on MN to encourage others to do the same, but didn't know where to put it. But I saw JanesKettle's post in another thread today (the thread asking MN to change their pinned "be careful of what you say about trans etc" post) where she said;

"I'll tell you, when the planet fucking burns and drowns, alternately, and civil society breaks down, it's women and girls whose sex will put them at the greatest risk."

So I thought I would post this here. Janes is right. It's already happening - especially for indigenous women, living on the outskirts of towns, with no financial support, and nowhere to go.

This is what we wrote (omitting personal info).
Could people please write to their MPs asking the same?

*To the Rt Hon xyz,

Australia is burning. The death toll for wildlife stands to exceed unprecedented numbers. Communities outside major cities are on fire, cut off and struggling for basic supplies. My Australian family have lost xyz, people are losing their homes, their livelihoods and their lives. Farmers are euthanising their livestock in droves. Endangered wildlife face becoming extinct. Habitats which have been nursed back from the brink of destruction in reserves have been wiped out. Visiting home for Christmas, my daughter and I saw first-hand the smoldering remains of what was my beloved national park playground as a child. The fire there was so extreme scientists think even the flora which have adapted to thrive from bush-fires have been wiped out.

There is a shortage of P2 masks currently, with no postal service to help deliver. People are struggling to breathe. Across the country airports, universities and businesses have shut. Air quality is so severe it is deemed not safe to venture out. People have been cut off from accessing any services as roads have been inaccessible. My friends have been camping on the beach as their homes burn down, wondering if their friends and family are alive.

We know that New Zealand have been sending firefighters to work in rotation to tackle the fires for the past three months. The NZ defense minister Ron Mark announced NZ would send three NH90 helicopters and crew, two NZ Army combat engineer sections, and a command element to support the ADF. Even Vanuatu, a tiny country in the South Pacific, have donated $250,00. Singapore have offered military capabilities.

The UK government as of yet, has not pledged any foreign aid.

Australia, a Commonwealth country, needs our help.

If you agree that the UK Government holds moral responsibility to help our allies in their desperate hour of need, then please could you lobby Parliament to this effect.
The sooner we are able to stem the fires, the better chance we have of saving lives, ecosystems and species from extinction.

Thank you.*

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PhoneLock · 08/01/2020 19:39

I've been thinking the same thing, although NZ and Singapore are better placed geographically to provide aid.

www.change.org/p/uk-government-divert-uk-foreign-aid-to-australia

Ron Mark is the NZ Minister of Defence.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minister_of_Defence_(New_Zealand)

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 08/01/2020 20:01

We don’t have to wait for the apocalypse for women to suffer post-disaster, because of their sex.

knowledge.aidr.org.au/resources/ajem-apr-2013-the-hidden-disaster-domestic-violence-in-the-aftermath-of-natural-disaster/

FFSFFSFFS · 08/01/2020 21:29

I'm Australian. Nice sentiment but I think misplaced.

Australia is a very wealthy and well functioning country. The Australian army resources are not overstretched as far as I'm aware.

The financial devastation will be huge - but there will be programmes put in place - the majority of loss of property and economic loss will be insured.

This is not something that should disrupt the allocation of resources to countries in need. I really don't think its a mass foreign aid situation.

FFSFFSFFS · 08/01/2020 21:30

I should also add that I don't think the UK would have the fire fighting specialist knowledge and capability that's needed.

terfsandwich · 08/01/2020 23:51

I'd like to address any misconceptions that arise because of this thread: Aboriginal women are not living in shanty fringe settlements in areas affected by the bushfire. Aboriginal communities from these areas were massacred and forcibly resettled in the early 1800s.
Yes there are Aboriginal families and communities living in the areas affected by the fires but they do not live in makeshift shacks or dilapidated housing etc in fringe settlements. This is in other parts of Australia.

terfsandwich · 08/01/2020 23:54

I should also add that I don't think the UK would have the fire fighting specialist knowledge and capability that's needed

... That was my thought when the head of the Sth Aust country fire service had a thick Scots accent on the news a couple of nights ago. But I'm sure he's capable!

midcenturylegs · 09/01/2020 05:47

I think ScoMo's propaganda has got to some.. Australia is not a well-functioning country at all at the moment. Resources are totally over-stretched. 90% of the volunteers on the ground are volunteers. That's 170,000 fire-fighting, unpaid. Fire chiefs have been asking the PM to ask other countries for help but he's been ignoring those requests? Oz needs more water bombers - the Americans have offered their 747 but Australia hadn't accepted last time I heard?

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JanesKettle · 09/01/2020 06:01

What I'd like the Tory government to do is apply pressure on the Liberal government to accept climate change. Maybe they'll listen to their ideological peers (I'm assuming your conservative aren't as corrupt when it comes to Big Coal as ours).

Poor and indigenous women will definitely be hard hit by this ecological crisis. Thanks, OP, you've inspired me to find out if there are any refuges impacted in my state, and what they might need at the moment.

JanesKettle · 09/01/2020 06:10

Australia is not a well-functioning country at all at the moment

Correct. If we were well-functioning, we'd have real time air quality updates, and everyone would have access to adequate masks. There wouldn't be isolated communities who still haven't seen help, other than a few air drops, and who still can't get out.

Low income and unemployed people affected by fire wouldn't be on wholly inadequate Newstart/Youth Allowance equivalent rates for 13 weeks only, when they are trying to get their lives on track, having lost everything.

Women with small children wouldn't be spending hours and hours in a hot car driving trying to find an appropriate evacuation space.And they are the lucky ones, with fuel.

I could go on and on and on.

If we were a well functioning country, there'd have been a disaster preparedness meeting late last year. The PM wouldn't have run away to Hawaii. We'd have a climate change policy, and we'd be reducing our emissions. We wouldn't be giving Adani access to our water. We wouldn't be building new coal mines.

Yes, we have great fire-fighting services but they are absolutely over-stretched. Not enough personnel to rotate fireys out of the field long enough to properly rest and recover. Volunteers working 30 hours shifts. Not sustainable.

Mostly the rest of the world needs to give us a good, hard kick up the backside. I'm kind of worried all the o/s aid will let Scotty and the government off the hook. By the time they sit in February, they need to have remade themselves as a compentent, effective government led by the science, and for that to happen, they need maximum international pressure applied.

ladybug92 · 09/01/2020 06:27

@JanesKettle I 100% agree!!
I'm from Australia and am very angry at the leadership of our country for making so many suffer!

They should be dismissed and jailed for criminal negligence. Just like a mine manager is jailed if his mine collapses and kills people die to him not following warnings.

A tragedy and an international embarrassment.

ICJump · 09/01/2020 07:19

One of the hugely concerning issue with the fires is there is no policy advice or planning for infants during emergencies in Australia. This means women and babies are exceptional vulnerable at the moment.

ICJump · 09/01/2020 07:20

Oh and we can get masks but the advice is that not everyone needs them. And we do have post.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 09/01/2020 07:43

One of the hugely concerning issue with the fires is there is no policy advice or planning for infants during emergencies in Australia.

In what respect? There are provisions for children in the Evacuation Planning Handbook. There is a separate guide to emergency planning for children and young people developed by the Federal Dept of Human Services and children and young people feature heavily in the Recovery Handbook. The Red Cross guide to emergency sheltering specifically mentions particular needs of infants, breastfeeding mothers and young children.

I’m not saying any of this is perfect, and you should certainly make your needs known, but it’s not true there are no policies or provisions.

JanesKettle · 09/01/2020 07:48

They should be dismissed and jailed for criminal negligence

Agreed.

JanesKettle · 09/01/2020 07:52

we can get masks

Not in sold-out, most polluted city in the world Canberra last week.

ICJump · 09/01/2020 08:39

Gribble 2019 is the most up to date review of the state of infant feeding in emergencies. I have seen information about preparing to evacuate with a baby has been provided by govt agencies in the current emergency

There were masks in Canberra and more have been brought in. As most people don't need them they would have been less frantic buying them.

bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-019-7528-0

ICJump · 09/01/2020 08:41

Oh for an edit button .

I've seen no information...

Frantic buying of them if only those who need them brought them

terfsandwich · 09/01/2020 08:41

I agree that we are under prepared because of climate change denial.
However after Black Saturday, the goal is saving lives in these catastrophic events. I think the Vic state government and agencies have done brilliantly with this goal.

midcenturylegs · 10/01/2020 21:09

www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/1/8/21055228/australia-fires-map-animals-koalas-wildlife-smoke-donate

Janes how are you faring? I've an old school friend who was stuck at a roadhouse near the WA/SA border with her son earlier this week with all roads blocked off.

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